Comments on: Smiles and scowls ‘in our genes’ http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/01/smiles-and-scowls-in-our-genes/ The official Derren Brown Blog Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:25:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Bruce Hood http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/01/smiles-and-scowls-in-our-genes/#comment-2784 Bruce Hood Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:55:21 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=283#comment-2784 Sadun, the evidence is actually more convincing from the studies of blind babies. http://brucemhood.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/blind-judo-worship-and-smiling-babies/ Sadun, the evidence is actually more convincing from the studies of blind babies.

http://brucemhood.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/blind-judo-worship-and-smiling-babies/

]]> By: Sadun http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/01/smiles-and-scowls-in-our-genes/#comment-2774 Sadun Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:41:32 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=283#comment-2774 "Blind and sighted athletes made the same expressions when they won and lost, US researchers found." I'm not that sure if that can be considered proof for anything. Unless those blind athletes were raised in an environment where everyone else was also blind, I think it is quite possible that they learned to express themselves the "right way" -for efficient communication- based on other people's reactions to their facial expressions. Pretty much like learning a language. It could be possible that how the first words emerged may bear similarities to how agreement on facial expressions emerged. But to be honest I think that's pretty unlikely since basic expressions don't seem to be too different among wild animals... you never know though... What I don't find too unlikely is that it could be a mixture of both; instincts/genes + learned communication. Just speculating... “Blind and sighted athletes made the same expressions when they won and lost, US researchers found.”

I’m not that sure if that can be considered proof for anything. Unless those blind athletes were raised in an environment where everyone else was also blind, I think it is quite possible that they learned to express themselves the “right way” -for efficient communication- based on other people’s reactions to their facial expressions. Pretty much like learning a language.

It could be possible that how the first words emerged may bear similarities to how agreement on facial expressions emerged. But to be honest I think that’s pretty unlikely since basic expressions don’t seem to be too different among wild animals… you never know though… What I don’t find too unlikely is that it could be a mixture of both; instincts/genes + learned communication.

Just speculating…

]]> By: Jimmy F http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/01/smiles-and-scowls-in-our-genes/#comment-2588 Jimmy F Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:08:36 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=283#comment-2588 I think its a bit much this study taking all the credit without a mention of Paul Ekman and all the research he did in the 60's and 70's that showed exactly this, as well as documenting all emotionally linked muscle movements in the face and developing the Facial Action Coding System... I think its a bit much this study taking all the credit without a mention of Paul Ekman and all the research he did in the 60′s and 70′s that showed exactly this, as well as documenting all emotionally linked muscle movements in the face and developing the Facial Action Coding System…

]]> By: ReliegiousMarie http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/01/smiles-and-scowls-in-our-genes/#comment-2536 ReliegiousMarie Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:35:32 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=283#comment-2536 omg this piccie looks like a scene from Alfred hitchkock `Birds ... omg this piccie looks like a scene from Alfred hitchkock `Birds …

]]> By: Peyote Wishcard http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/01/smiles-and-scowls-in-our-genes/#comment-2506 Peyote Wishcard Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:34:48 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=283#comment-2506 blah blah blah methinks? Haven't you done this subject already! ;) Chocs awaaaaaayyyy xXx blah blah blah methinks?
Haven’t you done this subject already!
;)
Chocs awaaaaaayyyy xXx

]]> By: Ms G http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/01/smiles-and-scowls-in-our-genes/#comment-2498 Ms G Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:16:02 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=283#comment-2498 I agree, and we do learn facial expressions which are supposed to resemble those that are hardwired but can't work when the true emotion isn't in anymore ... Models don't do anything else work wise, and we all fake a lot just to be polite or just not to stand out of the crowd or to hide our true inner emotion. I agree, and we do learn facial expressions which are supposed to resemble those that are hardwired but can’t work when the true emotion isn’t in anymore …
Models don’t do anything else work wise, and we all fake a lot just to be polite or just not to stand out of the crowd or to hide our true inner emotion.

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