Comments on: Chimpanzee ‘created weapons to hurl at zoo vistors’ http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/ The official Derren Brown Blog Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:25:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Nopke http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6138 Nopke Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:15:57 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6138 Some in the zoo just keep filling their mouth with spit for the same reason and wait for you to be friendly with them ... It probably got fed up with those who threw stones at him to get some response. Or gets fed up with those staring creatures .. Or he could not return the food tokens people threw at them and therefore he throws these things ... a way to communicate .. well, it is a way to communicate ofcourse. People are a bit dum, they quite often don't understand their own real language anymore so they learn about this inside theirselve by studying animals. He may not have collected them for the same purpose though, that's not been proven at all. People are not really known all the time either for being that rational/logic either, so why would that one be? It does still not say that they are not intelligent. I mean .. intelligence is just a human focus on things, created by those who wanted it to see it their way ofcourse. Some in the zoo just keep filling their mouth with spit for the same reason and wait for you to be friendly with them …

It probably got fed up with those who threw stones at him to get some response. Or gets fed up with those staring creatures .. Or he could not return the food tokens people threw at them and therefore he throws these things … a way to communicate .. well, it is a way to communicate ofcourse. People are a bit dum, they quite often don’t understand their own real language anymore so they learn about this inside theirselve by studying animals.

He may not have collected them for the same purpose though, that’s not been proven at all. People are not really known all the time either for being that rational/logic either, so why would that one be? It does still not say that they are not intelligent. I mean .. intelligence is just a human focus on things, created by those who wanted it to see it their way ofcourse.

]]> By: Ben http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6098 Ben Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:02:42 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6098 No to paraphrase uui, but I'd always heard or read that not only was our imagination the difference between humans and animals, it was also the survival trait that put us ahead of neanderthal man (the ability to conserve food for leaner times, etc.). Perhaps it's not any more imagination of (and planning for) the future than simple pattern recognition, no more than 'lunch comes at this time of day'. Very interesting stuff. No to paraphrase uui, but I’d always heard or read that not only was our imagination the difference between humans and animals, it was also the survival trait that put us ahead of neanderthal man (the ability to conserve food for leaner times, etc.).

Perhaps it’s not any more imagination of (and planning for) the future than simple pattern recognition, no more than ‘lunch comes at this time of day’.

Very interesting stuff.

]]> By: Sally http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6094 Sally Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:05:04 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6094 ps. "we shouldn’t really hunt chimps and put them in cages for our amusement" I don't think we need evidence like this to prove that fact! ps. “we shouldn’t really hunt chimps and put them in cages for our amusement”

I don’t think we need evidence like this to prove that fact!

]]> By: Sally http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6093 Sally Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:04:13 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6093 That's fascinating. I wish we had some confident grasp of what actually went on in other animals' heads. In an empathetic kinda way. It's so hard to make any judgements about them without that basic comprehension. That’s fascinating. I wish we had some confident grasp of what actually went on in other animals’ heads. In an empathetic kinda way. It’s so hard to make any judgements about them without that basic comprehension.

]]> By: ScreamingGreenConure http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6091 ScreamingGreenConure Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:43:13 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6091 They have culture, too: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/3321022/Chimpanzees-need-role-models.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/3300772/These-chimps-are-fishing-for-ants...-but-does-this-ritual-make-them-cultured.html Isn't it funny how freaked out some people get at the idea we might not be completely different from other species? They have culture, too:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/3321022/Chimpanzees-need-role-models.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/3300772/These-chimps-are-fishing-for-ants…-but-does-this-ritual-make-them-cultured.html
Isn’t it funny how freaked out some people get at the idea we might not be completely different from other species?

]]> By: Tash http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6090 Tash Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:31:52 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6090 I wonder if the Zoo gave visitors safety helmets on arrival! lol. xxx I wonder if the Zoo gave visitors safety helmets on arrival! lol. xxx

]]> By: Nicosia http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6089 Nicosia Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:28:28 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6089 That picture will haunt my nightmares... It's like a possessed loris. That picture will haunt my nightmares… It’s like a possessed loris.

]]> By: whodat http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6088 whodat Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:18:47 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6088 rock star! rock star!

]]> By: Diana http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6087 Diana Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:09:42 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6087 correction: I WANT ONE OF THOSE! correction: I WANT ONE OF THOSE!

]]> By: Diana http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/03/chimpanzee-created-weapons-to-hurl-at-zoo-vistors/#comment-6086 Diana Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:09:07 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=920#comment-6086 I don't care about the chimp....where did you get that pic? I want of those!!!!!! I don’t care about the chimp….where did you get that pic? I want of those!!!!!!

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