Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible’s satanic agents of the Apocalypse.
Honest. This isn’t a joke. The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God.
Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”
This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”
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*facepalm*
[serious and genuinely in horrible awe facepalm]
I find myself incredibly skeptical of this. I feel that if this were legitimate, we’d be hearing about through several major news sources, not just a handful of blogs. If true, it does force us Americans to question the sanity of our former president–which is already somewhat questionable. But, even as a Bush detractor, I’m not sure I buy this.
Oh, dear God. Please, please don’t think all Americans are like this guy.
I voted for Kerry, I swear. *sigh*
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Let’s see… he lies about weapons of mass destruction, invades Iraq and kills 1 million people, then says “God told me to go fight those terrorists”, then does stand up comedy routines, e.g. “Nope.. no weapons of mass destruction over here”… and now this.
By the way, in response to Lauren from NY, John Kerry is a fellow Skull & Bones initiate, along with Bush, so voting for him wouldn’t have made things any better. And let’s not forget: Obama hasn’t exactly pulled out of the Middle East either. They’re all nuts. All these politicians.
Ditto to Lauren – NY. And please don’t forget that the majority of us voted for Gore in 2000. There will never come a day when I stop being angry that he was our president for 2 terms.
Gog and Mogog are also hills outside of Cambridge.
I’ll be wacthing them closely in case they suddenly attack. Or that dubya gets wind of them being here and starts bombing.
is that what that will ferrel programme is about thats on soon?
In the light of what we now know about Tony Blair’s religious beliefs it would be interesting to know how George Bush’s conversation with him on this subject went. “Has the Lord spoken to you yet this morning about the mission we must undertake for Him in the Middle East? ……….”
Well, whatever made people the USA government would be that different … they will start to use that type of systems as well ofcourse .. not under the same words but hey …
“By the way, in response to Lauren from NY, John Kerry is a fellow Skull & Bones initiate, along with Bush, so voting for him wouldn’t have made things any better. And let’s not forget: Obama hasn’t exactly pulled out of the Middle East either. They’re all nuts. All these politicians.”
…Whoa. Okay, liberal that I am, I still haven’t forgotten that we were *attacked* by fundamentalists from the very region you’re defending just eight short years ago, so I’m actually quite glad we haven’t pulled out of the Middle East. Should we ever have invaded Iraq? No, of course not; that was a horrible red herring. It is now the fault of our country and that idiotic invasion that Al-Qaeda has a stronghold there, because they didn’t have one beforehand. Believe me, I know that. But to suggest that there should have been no retaliation to 9/11 is ridiculous. We should be pulling out of Iraq as soon as possible, and we are now that we have the right guy in office, but our presence in Afghanistan is certainly justified. I just wish we had the proper agenda from the start. I’m sorry we didn’t.
“Skull and Bones” is a ridiculous Yale frat boy club, but that’s about it. If you think they’re anything more than that, you’re paranoid–and, yes, I’ve studied them quite a bit–the reason it’s populated by rich and famous good ol’ boys is because that’s pretty much your student population at Yale. Just because they’re nutty and they drink each others’ blood doesn’t make them powerful. They’re powerful because their daddies were, and they didn’t have to attend Yale for that to be true. You’re over thinking things. It’s a frat. Get over it.
That blog cites the following places where it was published or confirmed after publishing:
- In 2007, Swiss newspaper, Le Matin Dimanche
- France’s La Liberte spoofed it under the headline “A Small Scoop on Bush, Chirac, God, Gog and Magog.”
- ex-President Chirac confirmed in journalist Jean-Claude Maurice his new book, Si Vous le Répétez, Je Démentirai (If You Repeat it, I Will Deny), released in March by the publisher Plon.
- The Charleston Gazette in West Virginia, is the only U.S. newspaper to report it so far.
- Canada’s Toronto Star recounted the story, calling it a “stranger-than-fiction disclosure”
Maybe it’s true, but not shocking to Americans, and so not news?
take care,
chris
On May 30 this year, I wrote about this and more on my site here. There was also an article in GQ on it.
Does anyone remember this widespread coverage in 2005?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4322228.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-god-told-me-to-invade-iraq-509925.html