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	<title>Comments on: What The Guardian’s Banned From Telling You</title>
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		<title>By: Roderick Russell</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-33279</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have knowledge of a situation back in 2005 when The Guardian was not quite so interested in opposing press self-censorship as it is today. It is described on a wiki whose URL is:

http://zerzetzen.wikispaces.com 

You only have to look at what happened when my wife and I visited The Guardian’s offices in Manchester back in 2005 to complain about the government cover-up and human rights abuse that we write about (years of defamation, intimidation, death threats by MI5/6 being covered-up by government).

2 hours after we left The Guardian’s office, my wife and I were threatened in the name of HRH. The following weekend my eldest son, then living in Birmingham, received a number of telephone death threats which he recorded and a vehicle was smashed into my apartment then in Didsbury, Manchester. The Guardian subsequently “lost” all the correspondence I had handed them as evidence (it alleges then Minister Hazel Blears’ involvement with the cover-up – and copies of some of it are on the wiki – including a confirmatory letter to me from The Guardian’s Editor). A month later in the middle of the night my son was woken up by a helicopter that was hovering right beside his bedroom window, and a year later shots were fired at him in front of witnesses. You can imagine what having her children threatened for 10 years has done to his mother. Now The Guardian had every right not to publish my story, but it seems to me that The Guardian was on the side of the abusers since these little threatening incidents were clearly meant to punish us for going to the Guardian. I had booked my appointment at The Guardian in person, and unless we were followed to The Guardian’s offices, nobody except the paper’s staff new we had met with them. It has been suggested that MI5 / MI6 have penetrated the UK press, and everything I have experienced would suggest that this is true. Roderick Russell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have knowledge of a situation back in 2005 when The Guardian was not quite so interested in opposing press self-censorship as it is today. It is described on a wiki whose URL is:</p>
<p><a href="http://zerzetzen.wikispaces.com" rel="nofollow">http://zerzetzen.wikispaces.com</a> </p>
<p>You only have to look at what happened when my wife and I visited The Guardian’s offices in Manchester back in 2005 to complain about the government cover-up and human rights abuse that we write about (years of defamation, intimidation, death threats by MI5/6 being covered-up by government).</p>
<p>2 hours after we left The Guardian’s office, my wife and I were threatened in the name of HRH. The following weekend my eldest son, then living in Birmingham, received a number of telephone death threats which he recorded and a vehicle was smashed into my apartment then in Didsbury, Manchester. The Guardian subsequently “lost” all the correspondence I had handed them as evidence (it alleges then Minister Hazel Blears’ involvement with the cover-up – and copies of some of it are on the wiki – including a confirmatory letter to me from The Guardian’s Editor). A month later in the middle of the night my son was woken up by a helicopter that was hovering right beside his bedroom window, and a year later shots were fired at him in front of witnesses. You can imagine what having her children threatened for 10 years has done to his mother. Now The Guardian had every right not to publish my story, but it seems to me that The Guardian was on the side of the abusers since these little threatening incidents were clearly meant to punish us for going to the Guardian. I had booked my appointment at The Guardian in person, and unless we were followed to The Guardian’s offices, nobody except the paper’s staff new we had met with them. It has been suggested that MI5 / MI6 have penetrated the UK press, and everything I have experienced would suggest that this is true. Roderick Russell</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Baxter</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-32458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good it got aired and it needed to be posted.

Sorry about the way I put across my earlier post...re-reading it it sounds bad...wasn&#039;t the intention.

Guardian&#039;s stance on the story today...twitter gets a mention:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/trafigura-drops-gag-guardian-oil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good it got aired and it needed to be posted.</p>
<p>Sorry about the way I put across my earlier post&#8230;re-reading it it sounds bad&#8230;wasn&#8217;t the intention.</p>
<p>Guardian&#8217;s stance on the story today&#8230;twitter gets a mention:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/trafigura-drops-gag-guardian-oil" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/trafigura-drops-gag-guardian-oil</a></p>
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		<title>By: Salman Shaheen</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-32363</link>
		<dc:creator>Salman Shaheen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry that our site crashed earlier today, it was due to the sheer volume of traffic with tens of thousands of people searching for this story. We had to upgrade our server, so hopefully that won&#039;t happen again. Thank you all for your patience. At the time of writing last night, it was a Third Estate exclusive, Owen worked it out and then tweeted it all over the place. I think Guido Fawkes may have worked it out independently. Either way, the blogosphere won the day and it&#039;s great news! Thanks Derren for highlighting the piece. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry that our site crashed earlier today, it was due to the sheer volume of traffic with tens of thousands of people searching for this story. We had to upgrade our server, so hopefully that won&#8217;t happen again. Thank you all for your patience. At the time of writing last night, it was a Third Estate exclusive, Owen worked it out and then tweeted it all over the place. I think Guido Fawkes may have worked it out independently. Either way, the blogosphere won the day and it&#8217;s great news! Thanks Derren for highlighting the piece. <img src='http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-32285</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shot themselves in the foot with this one eh? - it&#039;s a bit like banning a single which then goes straight to no1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shot themselves in the foot with this one eh? &#8211; it&#8217;s a bit like banning a single which then goes straight to no1.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Baxter</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-32268</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old news; here&#039;s the latest:

 http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/update-on-the-guardian-trafigura-we-win/

Pays to dig a bit ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news; here&#8217;s the latest:</p>
<p> <a href="http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/update-on-the-guardian-trafigura-we-win/" rel="nofollow">http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/update-on-the-guardian-trafigura-we-win/</a></p>
<p>Pays to dig a bit <img src='http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-32256</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... one of my friends wrote that article, and now it&#039;s on here, how very surreal... And as to the actual story itself, it really depresses me what large corporations with lots of lawyers try to (and often do) get away with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; one of my friends wrote that article, and now it&#8217;s on here, how very surreal&#8230; And as to the actual story itself, it really depresses me what large corporations with lots of lawyers try to (and often do) get away with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LauraO</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-32248</link>
		<dc:creator>LauraO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>38 Degrees are currently running a campaign on this. Take action now by emailing your MP and asking them to take a stand to stop this happening again in the future. Take action now, it only takes 2 mins. Go to:

www.38degrees.org.uk/stop-the-gag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>38 Degrees are currently running a campaign on this. Take action now by emailing your MP and asking them to take a stand to stop this happening again in the future. Take action now, it only takes 2 mins. Go to:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.38degrees.org.uk/stop-the-gag" rel="nofollow">http://www.38degrees.org.uk/stop-the-gag</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-32240</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaannnd.... the ban has been lifted. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaannnd&#8230;. the ban has been lifted. <img src='http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-32212</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... the hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; the hell?</p>
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		<title>By: suzanne</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/guardians-banned-telling/#comment-32181</link>
		<dc:creator>suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You don&#039;t have permission to access /2009/10/what-the-guardians-banned-from-telling-you...&quot;
fantastic irony indeed! :D

&lt;strong&gt;- it&#039;s very slow since we linked to it - try the other links in the comments - sorry about that. - Phillis&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t have permission to access /2009/10/what-the-guardians-banned-from-telling-you&#8230;&#8221;<br />
fantastic irony indeed! <img src='http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>- it&#8217;s very slow since we linked to it &#8211; try the other links in the comments &#8211; sorry about that. &#8211; Phillis</strong></p>
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