Comments on: Loose Change 9/11 2009 release http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/ The official Derren Brown Blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:29:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Marc http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-66210 Marc Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:00:23 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-66210 Dare I mention the 7/7 London "bombings"? The questions that have arisen out of 9/11 have been infinitely more publicised than the questions that have arisen out of the London bombings - of which there are also many. The publicity afforded to skeptics of the official story in America is negative to say the least. The majority of the time it turns into a personal attack on the individual but at least Americans are aware of the questions. The British people continue to walk around oblivious to the fact that their own "terrorist" attack raises irrefutable doubts as well. I have not seen a single outspoken word in any tabloid, journal or otherwise written media nor on a single British T.V. station. Are the British simply better at cover-ups and hush operations than the Americans are? Dare I mention the 7/7 London “bombings”? The questions that have arisen out of 9/11 have been infinitely more publicised than the questions that have arisen out of the London bombings – of which there are also many.

The publicity afforded to skeptics of the official story in America is negative to say the least. The majority of the time it turns into a personal attack on the individual but at least Americans are aware of the questions. The British people continue to walk around oblivious to the fact that their own “terrorist” attack raises irrefutable doubts as well.

I have not seen a single outspoken word in any tabloid, journal or otherwise written media nor on a single British T.V. station. Are the British simply better at cover-ups and hush operations than the Americans are?

]]> By: Torstein Viddal http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-43159 Torstein Viddal Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:51:34 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-43159 Thanks, Phillis for a very nice and tidy - rare, in that way - discussion of pros and cons. Thanks for your excellent moderation of the debate. As a service to the many «skeptics of the skeptics» who still haven't gotten around to seeing the September 22, 2009 release of Loose Change, titled «An American Coup», I'd like to direct you to this page, where you can preview the documentary in flash video (before buying). <a href="http://www.911truth.no/dokumentar/" rel="nofollow">www.911truth.no/dokumentar/</a> Thanks, Phillis for a very nice and tidy – rare, in that way – discussion of pros and cons. Thanks for your excellent moderation of the debate. As a service to the many «skeptics of the skeptics» who still haven’t gotten around to seeing the September 22, 2009 release of Loose Change, titled «An American Coup», I’d like to direct you to this page, where you can preview the documentary in flash video (before buying).

http://www.911truth.no/dokumentar/

]]> By: Chris http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-41431 Chris Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:49:03 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-41431 Correction: The preliminary NIST report denies freefall, but the final report accepts a period of freefall collapse. It just ignores the fact that this is totally inconsistent with its own favoured hypothesis, whilst being 100% consistent with controlled demolition. Correction: The preliminary NIST report denies freefall, but the final report accepts a period of freefall collapse. It just ignores the fact that this is totally inconsistent with its own favoured hypothesis, whilst being 100% consistent with controlled demolition.

]]> By: Chris http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-41419 Chris Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:11:43 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-41419 P.S. Just to clarify: the NIST report denies freefall. It has to, because the implication of WTC 7 being in freefall, even for a second, is that the entire structural support of the building has been suddenly removed. This cannot happen due to fire or partial impact damage: it is literally impossible. Freefall can only be denied by ignoring the evidence concerning the instantaneous acceleration of the building, and choosing instead a convenient starting point for calculating the collapse time. This video is essentially a scientific proof that WTC 7 at least was deliberately demolished. No other hypothesis is even remotely likely. Note the symmetry of the collapse. Fire / impact damage would lead to crumbling and toppling. Note also that there is no buckling of the perimeter walls, which NIST's 'piledriver' theory requires. P.S. Just to clarify: the NIST report denies freefall. It has to, because the implication of WTC 7 being in freefall, even for a second, is that the entire structural support of the building has been suddenly removed. This cannot happen due to fire or partial impact damage: it is literally impossible. Freefall can only be denied by ignoring the evidence concerning the instantaneous acceleration of the building, and choosing instead a convenient starting point for calculating the collapse time.

This video is essentially a scientific proof that WTC 7 at least was deliberately demolished. No other hypothesis is even remotely likely. Note the symmetry of the collapse. Fire / impact damage would lead to crumbling and toppling. Note also that there is no buckling of the perimeter walls, which NIST’s ‘piledriver’ theory requires.

]]> By: Chris http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-41411 Chris Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:49:59 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-41411 Hi Phillis. Yes, I've read the relevant sections of the NIST report (although not ALL of it I must admit). Indeed, WTC 7 suffered some impact damage from debris, but it certainly wasn't hit by a jetliner loaded with fuel. The NIST report contains some extremely poor physics regarding the collapse of WTC 7, claiming that it did not go down at freefall speed, when in fact it did for a significant portion of the time. This means that there was, for several seconds, NO resistance at all to the collapse. This is only possible by controlled demolition. The following video by a high-school physics teacher blows a very large hole in NIST's findings, and should be compulsory viewing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44L0-2zL8&feature=related Please do watch it; it's very well argued and the maths is simple enough. Hi Phillis. Yes, I’ve read the relevant sections of the NIST report (although not ALL of it I must admit). Indeed, WTC 7 suffered some impact damage from debris, but it certainly wasn’t hit by a jetliner loaded with fuel. The NIST report contains some extremely poor physics regarding the collapse of WTC 7, claiming that it did not go down at freefall speed, when in fact it did for a significant portion of the time. This means that there was, for several seconds, NO resistance at all to the collapse. This is only possible by controlled demolition. The following video by a high-school physics teacher blows a very large hole in NIST’s findings, and should be compulsory viewing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44L0-2zL8&feature=related

Please do watch it; it’s very well argued and the maths is simple enough.

]]> By: Kitty'sBitch http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-41398 Kitty'sBitch Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:05:59 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-41398 I KNEW IT!! It's you that keeps beaming these damned voices into my head, isn't it?!?! The greys warned me about you. I KNEW IT!!
It’s you that keeps beaming these damned voices into my head, isn’t it?!?!
The greys warned me about you.

]]> By: Jimmy http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-41241 Jimmy Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:59:33 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-41241 Sorry.. I was. But then again wouldn't you be drinking too if the world was going to end in 2012 and the Government was plastering the media with lies, and The only place of peace and sanity on the internet was as bloated and coercive as the rest of the possible points of interest in the web. Should be trust you phillis or should we trust our government? I don't know? Lets have a beer summit to discuss this further. Just don't bring Derren wit you. I don't want to think I am drinking some fine Newcastle bubbly wonder and find out later it was piss. IT leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Jokes on you. Sorry.. I was. But then again wouldn’t you be drinking too if the world was going to end in 2012 and the Government was plastering the media with lies, and The only place of peace and sanity on the internet was as bloated and coercive as the rest of the possible points of interest in the web. Should be trust you phillis or should we trust our government? I don’t know? Lets have a beer summit to discuss this further. Just don’t bring Derren wit you. I don’t want to think I am drinking some fine Newcastle bubbly wonder and find out later it was piss. IT leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Jokes on you.

]]> By: Jimmy http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-41225 Jimmy Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:27:30 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-41225 Wow! My faith is restored in Derren Brown.. See its not him that puts up this information its his cronies. Nevertheless a tree is known by its fruit. I commend who ever put this up. I condemn them for moderating the replies. Who controls information? Who is behind Derren Brown? What tree did he spring from? It is bold to ask the questions these documentaries declare. I bet Derren Brown is conflicted about this issue. When someone positions themselves in a place to give people the real truth and the real story and to in effect pull the veil from the charletons and tricksters and place their faith in the bringer of light, they inadvertantly hold it directly in front of themselves. And we can see their boogers. Money moves the world. Derren Brown can probably convincingly sneeze a gold coin from his nose. But only in dim light... <strong>- have you been drinking? - Phillis ;)</strong> Wow!
My faith is restored in Derren Brown.. See its not him that puts up this information its his cronies. Nevertheless a tree is known by its fruit. I commend who ever put this up. I condemn them for moderating the replies. Who controls information? Who is behind Derren Brown? What tree did he spring from? It is bold to ask the questions these documentaries declare.
I bet Derren Brown is conflicted about this issue. When someone positions themselves in a place to give people the real truth and the real story and to in effect pull the veil from the charletons and tricksters and place their faith in the bringer of light, they inadvertantly hold it directly in front of themselves. And we can see their boogers.
Money moves the world. Derren Brown can probably convincingly sneeze a gold coin from his nose. But only in dim light…

- have you been drinking? – Phillis ;)

]]> By: Bill http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-41203 Bill Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:42:41 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-41203 Haha PWNED. KittyB, with all due respect, you come off as "smarmy" anyway. Crazy brits! Can I just say that this just came out in the US, has had quite a bit press already and is now distributed by Microcinema International as an official release, hence all the publicity. As an indie film maker myself I admire it even though I DISAGREE with conclusions. It goes a bit too far, but people feel cheated over here and there's some good stuff in it that I DO agree with whole heartedly. The profits from this movie helps First Responders, a group of people totally ignored by the government of both Bush and Obama. You're not close enough to know what really happened here in NY and being an arm chair critic is easy. Why not stop being so angry and get off your ass and actually do something about it. http://www.fealgoodfoundation.com <strong>- Again something that's been missed out is the fact this movie was free before and is now released commercially to raise money for those forgotten in the first clean up operations (again featured on the DVD extras). If you can support the foundation and help the rescue workers - people who have been completely passed over - they risk death and bankruptcy due to illness from being there when it mattered. (and please any US health care debates will be ignored, stick to the debate) - Phillis</strong> Haha PWNED. KittyB, with all due respect, you come off as “smarmy” anyway. Crazy brits!

Can I just say that this just came out in the US, has had quite a bit press already and is now distributed by Microcinema International as an official release, hence all the publicity. As an indie film maker myself I admire it even though I DISAGREE with conclusions. It goes a bit too far, but people feel cheated over here and there’s some good stuff in it that I DO agree with whole heartedly.

The profits from this movie helps First Responders, a group of people totally ignored by the government of both Bush and Obama. You’re not close enough to know what really happened here in NY and being an arm chair critic is easy. Why not stop being so angry and get off your ass and actually do something about it.

http://www.fealgoodfoundation.com

- Again something that’s been missed out is the fact this movie was free before and is now released commercially to raise money for those forgotten in the first clean up operations (again featured on the DVD extras). If you can support the foundation and help the rescue workers – people who have been completely passed over – they risk death and bankruptcy due to illness from being there when it mattered. (and please any US health care debates will be ignored, stick to the debate) – Phillis

]]> By: Kitty'sBitch http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/loose-change-911-latest-release/#comment-41135 Kitty'sBitch Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:39:50 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=7715#comment-41135 Phillis The comment was up yesterday. It has since been removed. I'm getting a really bad vibe here. <strong>- YES I'm targeting you and you only "Kitty's ...uh Bitch"...? - your comment was a huge threat to the million plus people who visit here and it had to GO! Potentially traffic shatteringly dangerous, might ruin DB's career, or mine or... uh.... The only thing left to do is form your own conspiracy theory and then we can have a little party with tin hats! Anyone ever told you you're paranoid? No? oh well there's always next year. By the way this comment will never make it past next week as I will delete it in the shame I may be exposed to. I hope (as an overweight man in his 30's) I have just the right dress for the occasion - Phillis ;)</strong> Phillis
The comment was up yesterday. It has since been removed.
I’m getting a really bad vibe here.

- YES I’m targeting you and you only “Kitty’s …uh Bitch”…? – your comment was a huge threat to the million plus people who visit here and it had to GO! Potentially traffic shatteringly dangerous, might ruin DB’s career, or mine or… uh…. The only thing left to do is form your own conspiracy theory and then we can have a little party with tin hats! Anyone ever told you you’re paranoid? No? oh well there’s always next year. By the way this comment will never make it past next week as I will delete it in the shame I may be exposed to. I hope (as an overweight man in his 30′s) I have just the right dress for the occasion – Phillis ;)

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