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	<title>Comments on: Pub fined 8000GBP because customer downloaded material illegally</title>
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		<title>By: L Ron Hubbard</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-47004</link>
		<dc:creator>L Ron Hubbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if you secure your wireless network, WEP and WPA wireless encryption isn&#039;t at all difficult to crack so this could happen to virtually ANYBODY.  They&#039;d better start building bigger prisons - at this rate we&#039;ll need them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you secure your wireless network, WEP and WPA wireless encryption isn&#8217;t at all difficult to crack so this could happen to virtually ANYBODY.  They&#8217;d better start building bigger prisons &#8211; at this rate we&#8217;ll need them!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Stone</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-46904</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of piffle.  Surely the suppliers of WiFi could state the claim that they are not responsible for actions of users in the same way car parks  state that they are not responsible for any damage caused to cars parked in their premises.  Although, there is bound to be software available to stop such illegal activity in such cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of piffle.  Surely the suppliers of WiFi could state the claim that they are not responsible for actions of users in the same way car parks  state that they are not responsible for any damage caused to cars parked in their premises.  Although, there is bound to be software available to stop such illegal activity in such cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-46741</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not even wrong. There is no such thing as illegal downloading of copyrighted material. It is only illegal to publish copyrighted material without permission. I&#039;m going to guess that the money was extorted and never reached court which at least means no precedent was set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not even wrong. There is no such thing as illegal downloading of copyrighted material. It is only illegal to publish copyrighted material without permission. I&#8217;m going to guess that the money was extorted and never reached court which at least means no precedent was set.</p>
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		<title>By: thatpc33guy</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-46691</link>
		<dc:creator>thatpc33guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well...if you can do this it really is a matter of laziness...they dont want to track down the original downloader so they just went after the nxt best thing...hardly facilitation...the person may not have been even in the pub when they did it...you know those wireless waves go outside the buildings....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230;if you can do this it really is a matter of laziness&#8230;they dont want to track down the original downloader so they just went after the nxt best thing&#8230;hardly facilitation&#8230;the person may not have been even in the pub when they did it&#8230;you know those wireless waves go outside the buildings&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: AlanC</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-46687</link>
		<dc:creator>AlanC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things like this will just cause a lot of people to piggy back off of some poor unsuspecting person that doesn&#039;t know how to properly secure their internet connection. On my street alone I could use the internet of around 8 people. Some have their connections password protected, but they are only the default BT/Virgin ones and a lot of the time it is their phone number. When my good friend and neighbour first signed upto their ISP they were sent a wireless router and set it up, within 30 mins of him setting it up I had connected to his internet and changed his password on his router and effectively locked him out of his internet!!  I let him stew for a good 30 mins as he couldn&#039;t work out why his internet had stopped so I owned up and changed it for him and told him how to change it all to stop others doing the same!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things like this will just cause a lot of people to piggy back off of some poor unsuspecting person that doesn&#8217;t know how to properly secure their internet connection. On my street alone I could use the internet of around 8 people. Some have their connections password protected, but they are only the default BT/Virgin ones and a lot of the time it is their phone number. When my good friend and neighbour first signed upto their ISP they were sent a wireless router and set it up, within 30 mins of him setting it up I had connected to his internet and changed his password on his router and effectively locked him out of his internet!!  I let him stew for a good 30 mins as he couldn&#8217;t work out why his internet had stopped so I owned up and changed it for him and told him how to change it all to stop others doing the same!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik jensen</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-46683</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? Come on Derren I thought you could spot a hoax, sounds just about believable but with no real details, if it were true the pub landlord would have been all over the papers saying how hard done to he was. All court cases can be published they don&#039;t need permission. This is blatant scare mongering from the anti piracy league. 
sooner or later the production companies will realise that this is how people want to consume media and will start to distribute it online for free or minimal cost rather than let the likes of the big US TV networks control what they say and when and how they say it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Come on Derren I thought you could spot a hoax, sounds just about believable but with no real details, if it were true the pub landlord would have been all over the papers saying how hard done to he was. All court cases can be published they don&#8217;t need permission. This is blatant scare mongering from the anti piracy league.<br />
sooner or later the production companies will realise that this is how people want to consume media and will start to distribute it online for free or minimal cost rather than let the likes of the big US TV networks control what they say and when and how they say it.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Pourasghar</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-46680</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Pourasghar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pirate finder general strikes, first in a pub, next in a school. Cloak and dagger, people will start disappearring. Music will be forbidden, and we will turn to masked vigilantes to stand up for us. It&#039;ll be alright in the end, the pirate finder general will be consumed by digitally enhanced fire and his minions will wilt away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pirate finder general strikes, first in a pub, next in a school. Cloak and dagger, people will start disappearring. Music will be forbidden, and we will turn to masked vigilantes to stand up for us. It&#8217;ll be alright in the end, the pirate finder general will be consumed by digitally enhanced fire and his minions will wilt away.</p>
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		<title>By: okrum</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-46677</link>
		<dc:creator>okrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is crazy ! England is going to do the same mistakes that France has with its HADOPI law...Freedom is in danger my friends...and all that because the Majors have money and therefore have their say in what the government decides.
Very worrying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is crazy ! England is going to do the same mistakes that France has with its HADOPI law&#8230;Freedom is in danger my friends&#8230;and all that because the Majors have money and therefore have their say in what the government decides.<br />
Very worrying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ReliegiousMarie</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-46675</link>
		<dc:creator>ReliegiousMarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely mad, and it ofcourse is going to lead to nowhere. ....Oh yes it is though, it keeps some bureaucrats working....

A shortwhile ago, someone i know was working for the government (tax oh yes) and they gave funding to people with rental homes. (a complete new system was integrated for it and everyone dealing with funding for homes was dragged into this mess). When problems started to arise seriously for these people, the government was saying among themselfs ´if we don´t problem cases to deal with, we´re out of work´...shameless just like that.  No real solutions just more problems for the benefit of...?

This copyright work-system, is just going to be the same. Useless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely mad, and it ofcourse is going to lead to nowhere. &#8230;.Oh yes it is though, it keeps some bureaucrats working&#8230;.</p>
<p>A shortwhile ago, someone i know was working for the government (tax oh yes) and they gave funding to people with rental homes. (a complete new system was integrated for it and everyone dealing with funding for homes was dragged into this mess). When problems started to arise seriously for these people, the government was saying among themselfs ´if we don´t problem cases to deal with, we´re out of work´&#8230;shameless just like that.  No real solutions just more problems for the benefit of&#8230;?</p>
<p>This copyright work-system, is just going to be the same. Useless!</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Claire</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/11/pub-fined-8000gbp-customer-downloaded-material-illegally/#comment-46664</link>
		<dc:creator>Lady Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what about the person who downloaded the copyrighted material then?  Have they got off scot-free?  

LC x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what about the person who downloaded the copyrighted material then?  Have they got off scot-free?  </p>
<p>LC x</p>
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