MOSCOW, Russia — Bank robbers have threatened tellers with knives, shot their way into banks and tunnelled up into vaults. But one woman in southern Russia chose a more peaceful method: Police say Galina Korzhova hypnotised a bank teller into handing over tens of thousands of dollars in what is believed to be just one in a series of daring, if non-violent, bank robberies.
Galina Korzhova was arrested, said Anton Kornoukhov, a spokesman for police in the southern city of Volgograd, on suspicion of hypnotising a bank teller in the nearby town of Volzhky into giving her more than $80,000. She is suspected of having robbed up to 30 additional banks in what Russian media have called a “grand tour” around the country.
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Greed destroys an otherwise solid plan. She should have quit while she was ahead.
@RealEthanCaine
There’s a small but insistent voice inside me cheering her on. Yes, I know that the banks pass any costs on to customers – - but as crimes go, it doesn’t fill me with incandescent rage, as do many crimes!
Wow I want no how she did it I want the techneque anyone no it lol really I wanna no
How?
Details please.
Exact, very specific details please.
Is this even possible? I thought hypnotising someone took minutes if not hours to really put them under. or is it really like on “The Mentalist” and can be done in seconds? Derren can you give us some idea?
Let me guess, this is why they don’t let Derren into banks?
Oooh, you guys obviously don´t know too much about Derren!
Have you not seen him taking a 4500 Dollar diamond ring from a jewelery-store, without the store owner complaining? Or doing groceries for free or make people hand over their belongings while talking with him? Or make bookies pay out on ´lost-tickets´ just to name a very few….You might want to read his Books or see his dvd´s to see it.
Obviously this is not meant for criminal purposes but more to teach everyone about the more unknown techniques that can harm anyone if not aware….although being aware does not make you safe instantly as it is quite a difficult matter to chew and digest.
As a hypnotist I find this ludicrous!
First of all let me say that:
1 You can not be hypnotized if you don’t want to (you can simply resist)
2 You will never do anything against your will
3 Not everybody (most of us) will not be able to act on post-hypnotic suggestions.
A same scam was done in Italy last year in a supermarket, later on they found out that the woman who supposedly was robbed was in on it.
Concerning Derren and paying with paper. Are you sure that what you see is also the reality of the people undergoing this? Paying bookies with “losing” tickets with todays machines is impossible but there are fail safe methods and I am sure Andy and Derren used.
The Russian police would do good to keep an eye on this lady and watch her spending for the next few years.
Well, now you’ve confused me Raymond. I’ve heard before that you can’t make people do anything against their will. I’ve also heard Derren say he “insiduously massaged these people into robbing an armoured van” in The Heist. There must have been some hypnotism going on there…? I just can’t get how hypnotism works. I need to reread ch.4 in TricksofTheMind.
I’m no expert, but I think the phrase “hypontism” is being stretched a bit broadly in the above comments. To get someone to do what you want, you’ve got everything from influence/suggestion through intimidation to brainwashing/indoctrination.
I believe hypnotism alone can’t be used to make someone do something they are fundamentally opposed to.
You may however use misdirection to prevent them from realizing that they are doing something they are opposed to.
You may also use other forms of influence to make them want to whatever it is you are trying to have them do.
In The Heist (the armoured van robbery) DB completely engineered the experience of the participants for several weeks before the event. Gradually shifting their moral baseline, carefully anchoring his desired responses to certain stimuli. More than just hypnotism.
The story thus confirms my already strident belief: Derren Brown is the son of Russian Gypsies.
Raymond says:
As a hypnotist I find this ludicrous!
First of all let me say that:
2) You will never do anything against your will
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this intriuges me.
What if i tell you to fire a gun at somebody and kill them.
if it’s against your will, you won’t do it, right?
Now what if i tell you you are a British soldier in the SAS, on an assassination mission, and the person you are pointing the gun at is Osama Bin Laden, who it pulling a gun out of his pocket, and is about to shoot you.
Does your “against your will” arguement still work.
Just curious.
Anthony have you even seen ANY of Derren Browns programs?
“Anthony have you even seen ANY of Derren Browns programs?”
yes i have most of them, i dont understand your point, could you elaborate…
To my mind if you want them to do something against their will, you would just change “the perameters”/”their model of reality”
or, as codifier said earlier:
“You may however use misdirection to prevent them from realizing that they are doing something they are opposed to”
I did make a comment but it seems to have gone??
Doesn’t matter, the 3 points raymond made are spot on. Alongside the common misconception wherby people simply ‘fall asleep’ upon being hypnotised.
Anthony he is talking in relation to hypnotherapy, don’t be pedantic – if you’re in a hypnotised state and you’re told to pick up a pen, you will not pick that pen up unless you want to.
Yes, Derren has many followers around the planet … although not all would call it nypnoses … ehehe …
She probably promised sex with her eyes to the guys … that’s easy …
Oh well .. who buys those stories ..
Looking at the comments of the (i am guessing qualified) opinions of the hypnotists who have commented I am curious how they can say you would do nothing against your will during hypnosis. I dont think thats strictly accurate or true. People are all different and are different on different days. I would suggest whilst there are some rules in hypnotism – that these are never hard and fast and are reliable only vaguely from person to person. As in all areas that involve the workings of the brain we can only roughly say what will happen at any given time.
“if you’re in a hypnotised state and you’re told to pick up a pen, you will not pick that pen up unless you want to.”
So if you don’t want to pick up the pen you’ll just stayed glued to the chair and not respond? or would it break the trance and you’d “wake up”?
I’ve seen few hypno shows and nobody has ever refused a command to be a chicken or any other instruction.
I did read an article where some people were on stage, and one of them was a senior member of a local council who was complaining of been made to look a fool by dancing around as a chicken and touching herself inappropriately.
Why didn’t she refuse to carry out these actions if they were against her ego/will?
Personally i think the “nothing against your will” angle is said by hypnotists who want create the illusion of self control for potential customers.
The “against your will” argument is completely bogus. You cannot get them to do something that will break their trance or rapport with you.
But what is your will? Be honest. Isn’t there some part of you deep down inside that always fantasized the many wonderful and exciting things you could do with all that cash just lying there in your teller drawer?
It probably wasn’t ‘hypnosis’ as people usually think of it; getting a person in to a trance-like state so that you can command them to do anything. She probably convinced the teller, somehow, that the money was hers, or that he was handing over a smaller amount of money than he thought.
By the way, I’m very pleased to hear Derren is now apparently giving out massages. Where can I get one???
@ Jenny December 20 4:51pm: ‘I’ve also heard Derren say he “insiduously massaged these people into robbing an armoured van” .’
People seem to mix up hypnosis with (re)conditioning.
Sure you can shift people’s moral boundaries simply by putting them on the edge of what is morally acceptable for them. This will (in most cases) shift their moral boundary. This is something that could’ve been done in the Heist. We as humans experience it quite sometime in our lives. Think of sex f.i. where you first thought sex icky (as a kid) but once you do it you soon find your self experimenting with different positions.
It is easier to condition or persuade the bank clerk outside of work to help you and cut her in. You seek an employee: who hates her job/is in financial distress/has dreams that she can’t make true in her 9 to 5 job.
You “massage” her into this. Much like conditioning people to join cults.
When his is you definition of hypnosis then it was “hypnosis”.
Love that picture, Am i right in thinking its the same on used in “Something Wicked This Way Comes” ?.