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		<title>By: James Hudson</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-88500</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How distasteful! People in this day and age still having moral fortitude and not living their lives in complete rebellion against God. Derren, maybe you should see if you can lend this man some of your no doubt well thumbed Crowley books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How distasteful! People in this day and age still having moral fortitude and not living their lives in complete rebellion against God. Derren, maybe you should see if you can lend this man some of your no doubt well thumbed Crowley books.</p>
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		<title>By: Mozinho</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-58856</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozinho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 22:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to free speech (not free for people such as him with Christian beliefs anymore, in a society where people seek equality where is the equality for this guy and his beliefs)? Or should he be pigeon holed into a situation he feels uncomfortable in. Essentially there is no such thing as equality, as to make things equal for one group of people means taking rights of freedom from the other. Christians believe (according to the Bible) that they shouldn&#039;t lead other people into sin, this was why this guy couldn&#039;t do it. It&#039;s not about passing judgement as he didn&#039;t condemn them he just wanted to opt out so the last article is wrong on those grounds. Is your prejudice running against the Christian guy and that he is not allowed to have his own opinions, he must comply?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to free speech (not free for people such as him with Christian beliefs anymore, in a society where people seek equality where is the equality for this guy and his beliefs)? Or should he be pigeon holed into a situation he feels uncomfortable in. Essentially there is no such thing as equality, as to make things equal for one group of people means taking rights of freedom from the other. Christians believe (according to the Bible) that they shouldn&#8217;t lead other people into sin, this was why this guy couldn&#8217;t do it. It&#8217;s not about passing judgement as he didn&#8217;t condemn them he just wanted to opt out so the last article is wrong on those grounds. Is your prejudice running against the Christian guy and that he is not allowed to have his own opinions, he must comply?</p>
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		<title>By: Elephants Child</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-47967</link>
		<dc:creator>Elephants Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was not being asked to compromise his christian beliefs as his beliefs were not christian in the first place.
What happened to &quot;Judge not lest ye be judged&quot; ? Christ himself said &quot;Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.&quot;
His problem is one of prejudice alone &amp; for that, Relate had a perfect right to sack him.
How very pathetic of him to run to the courts &amp; expect them to back him up. If he had been right he should have been proud to stand up &amp; be counted.
Maybe in his heart of hearts he knew all along that he was wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was not being asked to compromise his christian beliefs as his beliefs were not christian in the first place.<br />
What happened to &#8220;Judge not lest ye be judged&#8221; ? Christ himself said &#8220;Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.&#8221;<br />
His problem is one of prejudice alone &amp; for that, Relate had a perfect right to sack him.<br />
How very pathetic of him to run to the courts &amp; expect them to back him up. If he had been right he should have been proud to stand up &amp; be counted.<br />
Maybe in his heart of hearts he knew all along that he was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-47822</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>StarliteShadow:  

&quot;If Relate were a Christian organisation that had beliefs against homosexuality, and fired one of its staff for supporting homosexuality – then that staff member should be fired…

This is essentially the opposite of the above news article. Yet often I read of stories where such things do not happen. So surely you cannot have one without the other. Either the employer has the right to set their beliefs (pro or against) or not.&quot;

This is a completely false analogy.  Mr McFarlane  was not fired for merely being anti-homosexual - he was fired because he refused to do his job.

If a vegetarian was hired to stack shelves in Tesco and refused to handle any products that contained meat, would it be discrimination if she were fired?  Or is she just in the wrong job in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>StarliteShadow:  </p>
<p>&#8220;If Relate were a Christian organisation that had beliefs against homosexuality, and fired one of its staff for supporting homosexuality – then that staff member should be fired…</p>
<p>This is essentially the opposite of the above news article. Yet often I read of stories where such things do not happen. So surely you cannot have one without the other. Either the employer has the right to set their beliefs (pro or against) or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a completely false analogy.  Mr McFarlane  was not fired for merely being anti-homosexual &#8211; he was fired because he refused to do his job.</p>
<p>If a vegetarian was hired to stack shelves in Tesco and refused to handle any products that contained meat, would it be discrimination if she were fired?  Or is she just in the wrong job in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: StarliteShadow</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-47742</link>
		<dc:creator>StarliteShadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Relate were a Christian organisation that had beliefs against homosexuality, and fired one of its staff for supporting homosexuality - then that staff member should be fired...

This is essentially the opposite of the above news article. Yet often I read of stories where such things do not happen. So surely you cannot have one without the other. Either the employer has the right to set their beliefs (pro or against) or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Relate were a Christian organisation that had beliefs against homosexuality, and fired one of its staff for supporting homosexuality &#8211; then that staff member should be fired&#8230;</p>
<p>This is essentially the opposite of the above news article. Yet often I read of stories where such things do not happen. So surely you cannot have one without the other. Either the employer has the right to set their beliefs (pro or against) or not.</p>
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		<title>By: OtherMike</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-47715</link>
		<dc:creator>OtherMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personal convictions don&#039;t come without cost. By believing as he does, the guy is limiting the range of people can can work for. But instead of acknowledging that, he expects the courts to step in and uphold his convictions for him. He&#039;s not the first to think that he can indulge in some minority conviction at no cost to himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personal convictions don&#8217;t come without cost. By believing as he does, the guy is limiting the range of people can can work for. But instead of acknowledging that, he expects the courts to step in and uphold his convictions for him. He&#8217;s not the first to think that he can indulge in some minority conviction at no cost to himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Thsyrus</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-47709</link>
		<dc:creator>Thsyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what that guy was trying to get from this. His employer could have been accused of prejudice to homosexuals if he allowed him to be specific in such a way. While there are some circumstances where an employer might have been able to offer a solution it is by far creating more problems for the company for the sake of one employee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what that guy was trying to get from this. His employer could have been accused of prejudice to homosexuals if he allowed him to be specific in such a way. While there are some circumstances where an employer might have been able to offer a solution it is by far creating more problems for the company for the sake of one employee.</p>
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		<title>By: liamtip</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-47699</link>
		<dc:creator>liamtip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bloody christians. what a bunch of hypocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bloody christians. what a bunch of hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: Blinky</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-47687</link>
		<dc:creator>Blinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Religious discriminator cries religious discrimination&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Religious discriminator cries religious discrimination&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Swift</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/christian-loses-sex-therapy-case/#comment-47680</link>
		<dc:creator>Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Christian and yet wholly condemn the Counsellor guy in this, I must sadly admit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Christian and yet wholly condemn the Counsellor guy in this, I must sadly admit.</p>
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