Comments on: Spying begins on UK web users http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/ The official Derren Brown Blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:29:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: liamtip http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-48047 liamtip Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:02:10 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-48047 @ jonbaxter.... switching from virgin to BT? makes you even dumber i\'m affraid. BT are much worse with users\' data. thats why the EU are about to fine our government for letting BT wiretap 10,000 people. google \'PHORM\' for more info. what is even more alarming it that our gov dont mind them doing it and have angered the EU as they dont like it. to answer above: its NOT illegal to download anything apart from child porn and nasty porn (snuff/abusive etc). downloading music is only illegal if you then SHARE it. the BBC doesnt help as it keeps banging on about downloading. its not illegal to download its just illegal to distribute it - hence dont share. anyway - if you can afford it - buy it or rent it. @ jonbaxter….

switching from virgin to BT? makes you even dumber i\’m affraid. BT are much worse with users\’ data. thats why the EU are about to fine our government for letting BT wiretap 10,000 people. google \’PHORM\’ for more info. what is even more alarming it that our gov dont mind them doing it and have angered the EU as they dont like it.

to answer above:

its NOT illegal to download anything apart from child porn and nasty porn (snuff/abusive etc). downloading music is only illegal if you then SHARE it. the BBC doesnt help as it keeps banging on about downloading. its not illegal to download its just illegal to distribute it – hence dont share.

anyway – if you can afford it – buy it or rent it.

]]> By: Anonymous Proxy http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-47960 Anonymous Proxy Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:28:28 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-47960 This is one of the reasons why people use anonymous proxies. With an encrypted secure tunnel, the ISP will not see the web traffic this cannot report it. An encrypted tunnel does what it sounds like it does. It drives a tunnel from the users PC to the proxy server this blocking the ISP's ability to monitor the communications. Having said this, most proxy companies still need to keep logs just like ISP's do. So it's still possible to have law enforcement track you down. This is one of the reasons why people use anonymous proxies. With an encrypted secure tunnel, the ISP will not see the web traffic this cannot report it. An encrypted tunnel does what it sounds like it does. It drives a tunnel from the users PC to the proxy server this blocking the ISP’s ability to monitor the communications. Having said this, most proxy companies still need to keep logs just like ISP’s do. So it’s still possible to have law enforcement track you down.

]]> By: klarax http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-47895 klarax Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:17:56 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-47895 u know that this wont stop it really, ppl find another way of doing it. its been around since the beginning of the internet (downloading illegal stuff, not torrents) and will be around for along time to come. best thing is, they even tell ppl how they are trying to stop ppl, so you just know software geeks are already working on a a new way or a hack of some kind, so they can carry on downloading stuff free, u know that this wont stop it really, ppl find another way of doing it. its been around since the beginning of the internet (downloading illegal stuff, not torrents) and will be around for along time to come.

best thing is, they even tell ppl how they are trying to stop ppl, so you just know software geeks are already working on a a new way or a hack of some kind, so they can carry on downloading stuff free,

]]> By: Fausty http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-47890 Fausty Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:38:21 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-47890 While it's suitably disappointing that corporate power thinks nothing of spying on its own customers - and snitching on them, presumably, in due course - it's also entirely futile. Righteous indignation has its place, surely, but it must take second-fiddle to steps that establish complete victory in the clash - if such steps are easily available. Each and every one of our customers (full disclosure: I'm CTO of http://www.torrentfreedom.net) in the UK is entirely immune from this sort of nonsense. Time and money wasted trying to eavesdrop on their packets gains exactly zero value for the corporate snoops so eager to deploy each new version of snoopware on the market. Change the economics of snooping, by making it largely ineffective and worthless, and corporations won't waste money on it in the future. Winning is good. Fausty While it’s suitably disappointing that corporate power thinks nothing of spying on its own customers – and snitching on them, presumably, in due course – it’s also entirely futile. Righteous indignation has its place, surely, but it must take second-fiddle to steps that establish complete victory in the clash – if such steps are easily available.

Each and every one of our customers (full disclosure: I’m CTO of http://www.torrentfreedom.net) in the UK is entirely immune from this sort of nonsense. Time and money wasted trying to eavesdrop on their packets gains exactly zero value for the corporate snoops so eager to deploy each new version of snoopware on the market. Change the economics of snooping, by making it largely ineffective and worthless, and corporations won’t waste money on it in the future. Winning is good.

Fausty

]]> By: Dave lister http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-47873 Dave lister Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:23:50 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-47873 @mmonyte I can't see them going to all the trouble of trying to de-scramble any encrypted data that is sent through a vpn tunnel or if they are in anyway encrypted for that matter. Would cost them to much time & money and also be an infringement of the data protection act. @mmonyte I can’t see them going to all the trouble of trying to de-scramble any encrypted data that is sent through a vpn tunnel or if they are in anyway encrypted for that matter. Would cost them to much time & money and also be an infringement of the data protection act.

]]> By: Alan C http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-47854 Alan C Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:02:22 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-47854 @dez good point there, but then it leads to the possibility of the goverment then using information to spy on the people too. Big Brother will be truely watching everyone then. @dez good point there, but then it leads to the possibility of the goverment then using information to spy on the people too. Big Brother will be truely watching everyone then.

]]> By: Fred http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-47843 Fred Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:59:27 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-47843 nobs. nobs.

]]> By: Dez http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-47796 Dez Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:38:41 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-47796 What is most worrying is that it is a sub-company of BAE systems doing the work! It's BAE systems that design the vast majority of our military systems and hardware! What is most worrying is that it is a sub-company of BAE systems doing the work! It’s BAE systems that design the vast majority of our military systems and hardware!

]]> By: Jonii http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-47789 Jonii Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:25:23 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-47789 The end of the wild west internet is over it seems. Was only a matter of time before the Man started policing the last free place on Earth. The end of the wild west internet is over it seems.

Was only a matter of time before the Man started policing the last free place on Earth.

]]> By: ReliegiousMarie http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/spying-begins-uk-web-users/#comment-47784 ReliegiousMarie Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:27:30 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8480#comment-47784 There is only going to come alot of trouble from these kind of measurements....it´s like justifying spying on the entire nation because you cannot handle a percentage of them downloading and sharing....again this is the world upside down solution that will encourage same measurements and creations from tech-geeks.... There is only going to come alot of trouble from these kind of measurements….it´s like justifying spying on the entire nation because you cannot handle a percentage of them downloading and sharing….again this is the world upside down solution that will encourage same measurements and creations from tech-geeks….

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