Comments on: Thou shalt not steal… unless we say so http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/ The official Derren Brown Blog Mon, 07 May 2012 09:24:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Raymond http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48762 Raymond Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:21:24 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48762 I remember from my Christian schooldays that God would provide us with everything we needed when we needed it the most! What went wrong with Christianity that you now need to steel (yet on the stone tablets it says: thou shalt not steal). I am now so confused!!! Now I know why I became an atheist everything's so clear now! I remember from my Christian schooldays that God would provide us with everything we needed when we needed it the most! What went wrong with Christianity that you now need to steel (yet on the stone tablets it says: thou shalt not steal).

I am now so confused!!!

Now I know why I became an atheist everything’s so clear now!

]]> By: Redem http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48756 Redem Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:13:03 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48756 I agree with the priest. If, for whatever reason a person finds themselves or their family short on food, and can't find legitmate sources of help (charities, welfare, family and friends) then shoplifting is the least harmful criminal method of obtaining the items needed for survival. If my family's starving some winter, and I can't hel any other way, i'll shed no tears over it. You can be sorry later, with the luxury of food in your belly and somewhere warm to sleep. I agree with the priest. If, for whatever reason a person finds themselves or their family short on food, and can’t find legitmate sources of help (charities, welfare, family and friends) then shoplifting is the least harmful criminal method of obtaining the items needed for survival.
If my family’s starving some winter, and I can’t hel any other way, i’ll shed no tears over it.

You can be sorry later, with the luxury of food in your belly and somewhere warm to sleep.

]]> By: Storm™ http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48675 Storm™ Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:07:27 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48675 David D says: December 22, 2009 at 1:18 pm How about steal the riches in Churches? Also funny that most poor people seem to find enough money to smoke and drink. (I’ll get into my bunker now!) I was about to go "FFS" - but then saw the bunker comment. In our town we have "cider george". The best and most gentle town drunk ever. He asked my mate the vicar if he could stash his street bedding in a quiet corner of the church. Its against church policy btw but my mate said it would be fine. The church helpers, helped georges bedding and clothes onto the rubbish tip though. The vicar went apeshit at them. So the next time it happened that george left his clothes and bedding, the scum did the same thing but this time threw it where the vicar could not find it. Despite going twice as apeshit no one would own up. Very Christian eh. David D says:
December 22, 2009 at 1:18 pm
How about steal the riches in Churches?
Also funny that most poor people seem to find enough money to smoke and drink.
(I’ll get into my bunker now!)

I was about to go “FFS” – but then saw the bunker comment. In our town we have “cider george”. The best and most gentle town drunk ever. He asked my mate the vicar if he could stash his street bedding in a quiet corner of the church. Its against church policy btw but my mate said it would be fine. The church helpers, helped georges bedding and clothes onto the rubbish tip though. The vicar went apeshit at them. So the next time it happened that george left his clothes and bedding, the scum did the same thing but this time threw it where the vicar could not find it. Despite going twice as apeshit no one would own up. Very Christian eh.

]]> By: Sarah http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48663 Sarah Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:35:12 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48663 Shouldn't the vicar instead of asked those in the congregation who COULD spare a few dimes to contribute in order to aid those who might otherwise need to resort to desperate measures to survive? I've been poor. I've had to go to food banks to get food. I've NEVER (and I pride myself on this) resorted to stealing. There are homeless shelters, street missions, food banks etc to help those in need. The owners of large stores may be multi-millionaires now but they (probably) clawed their way to the top with hard work and business savvy. Is it right to steal from them because they have better business acumen than the rest of us? Shouldn’t the vicar instead of asked those in the congregation who COULD spare a few dimes to contribute in order to aid those who might otherwise need to resort to desperate measures to survive?

I’ve been poor. I’ve had to go to food banks to get food. I’ve NEVER (and I pride myself on this) resorted to stealing. There are homeless shelters, street missions, food banks etc to help those in need.

The owners of large stores may be multi-millionaires now but they (probably) clawed their way to the top with hard work and business savvy. Is it right to steal from them because they have better business acumen than the rest of us?

]]> By: Elephants Child http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48659 Elephants Child Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:36:51 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48659 If you are so poor that you need to steal food why not go to your nearest church & ask them for food - see how far that gets you ! When I was homeless I tried to sleep in a church doorway & the vicar threw a bucket of water over me. Fine upstanding christian that he was ! Woolies was a big multinational company & where is that now ? Maybe if less people had nicked stuff & bought it instead it would still be on our high streets ! My philosophy - If you can\'t buy it nick it, if you can\'t bring youself to nick it you don\'t need it. If you are so poor that you need to steal food why not go to your nearest church & ask them for food – see how far that gets you !
When I was homeless I tried to sleep in a church doorway & the vicar threw a bucket of water over me. Fine upstanding christian that he was !

Woolies was a big multinational company & where is that now ?
Maybe if less people had nicked stuff & bought it instead it would still be on our high streets !

My philosophy – If you can\’t buy it nick it, if you can\’t bring youself to nick it you don\’t need it.

]]> By: Lady Claire http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48656 Lady Claire Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:25:24 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48656 I'll admit that when this was on the news this morning, I was in the 'what the hell is he saying?' camp, but having read some of the comments on here and the report above, I can see, perhaps, where he was coming from in all this. Maybe some of us are quick to judge and need to view the bigger picture at times. LC x I’ll admit that when this was on the news this morning, I was in the ‘what the hell is he saying?’ camp, but having read some of the comments on here and the report above, I can see, perhaps, where he was coming from in all this. Maybe some of us are quick to judge and need to view the bigger picture at times.

LC x

]]> By: Jack http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48653 Jack Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:22:44 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48653 I'm surprised that people commenting here agree with the priest it is better to steal. Would it not be a much, much more f**king Christian thing to do, for the church to help the needy?! Is that not what they are for? I didn't see him jumping at the chance to be a good Christian. No, no, no of course not Christian church rational; "just keep giving your loose change to the church on Sunday, but, oh, don't expect this to come back and help you in your time of need. This goes straight to the Vatican, those gold thrones don't polish themselves you know!!! .... If you're in need of help, matey, go and rob some shops ... god be with you my son" I’m surprised that people commenting here agree with the priest it is better to steal.

Would it not be a much, much more f**king Christian thing to do, for the church to help the needy?! Is that not what they are for? I didn’t see him jumping at the chance to be a good Christian.

No, no, no of course not

Christian church rational;
“just keep giving your loose change to the church on Sunday, but, oh, don’t expect this to come back and help you in your time of need. This goes straight to the Vatican, those gold thrones don’t polish themselves you know!!! …. If you’re in need of help, matey, go and rob some shops … god be with you my son”

]]> By: Emily http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48651 Emily Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:56:48 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48651 I love this story! It really brought me some Christmas cheer today. Good for him - he said if you have to steal then do it from a big supermarket and not a local small business and on no account do a burglary as that hurts people. He said that by acknowledging that people do this he can provide some moral guidance on it. Fab! God bless yer father Tim, I'll slip a pack of mince pies under me jacket for you. x I love this story! It really brought me some Christmas cheer today. Good for him – he said if you have to steal then do it from a big supermarket and not a local small business and on no account do a burglary as that hurts people. He said that by acknowledging that people do this he can provide some moral guidance on it. Fab! God bless yer father Tim, I’ll slip a pack of mince pies under me jacket for you. x

]]> By: Darryl http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48640 Darryl Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:41:12 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48640 Maybe if the church sold off some of its prime real estate and hand it out to the more worse off from there congregation. I was under the misguided belief that the church leaders should be above creating a crime wave. Can this be used as a defence in court? Can we expect the bigger business to accept this? Maybe this doofus clergy should read the bible. (I have, and it' starts OK but then gets a bit rubbish) Maybe if the church sold off some of its prime real estate and hand it out to the more worse off from there congregation. I was under the misguided belief that the church leaders should be above creating a crime wave. Can this be used as a defence in court? Can we expect the bigger business to accept this? Maybe this doofus clergy should read the bible. (I have, and it’ starts OK but then gets a bit rubbish)

]]> By: Nopke http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/thou-shalt-steal/#comment-48639 Nopke Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:32:53 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=8714#comment-48639 Most of us probably would, if we had no other choices left. I think most shoplifters are not people in need though, far from that most of the time. Most of us probably would, if we had no other choices left. I think most shoplifters are not people in need though, far from that most of the time.

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