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	<title>Comments on: Tory party proposal to use The Wisdom of Crowds</title>
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		<title>By: Josh Coppersmith Heaven</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-55594</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Coppersmith Heaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying to contact derren for a few weeks now re: a little subliminal tag I found in the Tory Tree.... click on my name above, or search google for &quot;the consexative party&quot;, and let me know what you think.... there&#039;s a poll too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to contact derren for a few weeks now re: a little subliminal tag I found in the Tory Tree&#8230;. click on my name above, or search google for &#8220;the consexative party&#8221;, and let me know what you think&#8230;. there&#8217;s a poll too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Elephants Child</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-49202</link>
		<dc:creator>Elephants Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shall see the wisdom of crowds when the torys DON&#039;T win the next election !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shall see the wisdom of crowds when the torys DON&#8217;T win the next election !</p>
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		<title>By: Berber Anna</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-49176</link>
		<dc:creator>Berber Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ehm, knowledge OR educated guesses, of course. That&#039;ll teach me to proofread before hitting Submit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehm, knowledge OR educated guesses, of course. That&#8217;ll teach me to proofread before hitting Submit.</p>
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		<title>By: Berber Anna</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-49175</link>
		<dc:creator>Berber Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>crae: Wisdom of crowds is a real thing, but it&#039;s more of a sort of law of averages, where people&#039;s knowledge educated guesses about a subject are assumed (and found) to deviate from the truth in (for lack of better words) equal but opposite amounts, so that the collective result is better than most individual results. It works when you&#039;re trying to guess an amount or weight that people can make an educated guess about. It also works in things like wikis, where people correct each other until a proper balance is achieved.

The lottery, however, is totally random (unless explanation II is valid :P ). You can stare at previous result forever, but unless the lotto balls are improperly calibrated, you&#039;re not going to be able to make an EDUCATED guess. And however many UNeducated guesses you make, that is still a random result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crae: Wisdom of crowds is a real thing, but it&#8217;s more of a sort of law of averages, where people&#8217;s knowledge educated guesses about a subject are assumed (and found) to deviate from the truth in (for lack of better words) equal but opposite amounts, so that the collective result is better than most individual results. It works when you&#8217;re trying to guess an amount or weight that people can make an educated guess about. It also works in things like wikis, where people correct each other until a proper balance is achieved.</p>
<p>The lottery, however, is totally random (unless explanation II is valid <img src='http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  ). You can stare at previous result forever, but unless the lotto balls are improperly calibrated, you&#8217;re not going to be able to make an EDUCATED guess. And however many UNeducated guesses you make, that is still a random result.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-49168</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hate to say it but willott is right. though the tories SHOULD try and communicate with the masses to see what bothers us little people, there are better ways of doing it which won&#039;t cost that much money. i recently noticed that the lib dem candidates are all on facebook, my the rep from my area has been adding practically everyone to their friends list. now thats one very cheap way to keep abreast of what is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hate to say it but willott is right. though the tories SHOULD try and communicate with the masses to see what bothers us little people, there are better ways of doing it which won&#8217;t cost that much money. i recently noticed that the lib dem candidates are all on facebook, my the rep from my area has been adding practically everyone to their friends list. now thats one very cheap way to keep abreast of what is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-49152</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asides the fact that I found that episode of the show ludicrous and far too magicky for my taste and the pseudo explanation was rubbish (not what I expect from Andy and Derren whom I appreciate tremendously) here&#039;s what I think of the Torie view point.

Good politics should have always been run by the wisdom/voice of the crowd. Far too little politicians these days listen to the majority of the people, their sole focus is to ignore public opinion and aim for short term plans that&#039;ll rake in taxes. Politicians are narrow minded none inventive people who can&#039;t deal with the real issues and plan 20 to 50 years ahead and think in a macro technical terms.
No matter where you are UK, NL, US, BE, Germany you see it everywhere and annoys me. Maybe this will help the UK, lets hope so!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asides the fact that I found that episode of the show ludicrous and far too magicky for my taste and the pseudo explanation was rubbish (not what I expect from Andy and Derren whom I appreciate tremendously) here&#8217;s what I think of the Torie view point.</p>
<p>Good politics should have always been run by the wisdom/voice of the crowd. Far too little politicians these days listen to the majority of the people, their sole focus is to ignore public opinion and aim for short term plans that&#8217;ll rake in taxes. Politicians are narrow minded none inventive people who can&#8217;t deal with the real issues and plan 20 to 50 years ahead and think in a macro technical terms.<br />
No matter where you are UK, NL, US, BE, Germany you see it everywhere and annoys me. Maybe this will help the UK, lets hope so!</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-49150</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol I cant believe that actually believed mr browns showmanship...... as if that was way it worked.......wisdom of crowds my arse... stupidity of the flock more like!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol I cant believe that actually believed mr browns showmanship&#8230;&#8230; as if that was way it worked&#8230;&#8230;.wisdom of crowds my arse&#8230; stupidity of the flock more like!</p>
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		<title>By: emi</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-49147</link>
		<dc:creator>emi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just make Derren PM and be done with it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just make Derren PM and be done with it. <img src='http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jess xxx</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-49145</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess xxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Paul  You&#039;re way ahead of me. I can see the campaign posters now; &#039;Goodbye, Brown...Hello, Brown!&#039; :D

Thing is, isn&#039;t this just going to serve as more evidence to the people who think Derren is the Devil Incarnate? Derren Brown; mind reading abilities, hypnosis abilities, atheist, black clothes, goatee...and now backed by the Torys! :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Paul  You&#8217;re way ahead of me. I can see the campaign posters now; &#8216;Goodbye, Brown&#8230;Hello, Brown!&#8217; <img src='http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thing is, isn&#8217;t this just going to serve as more evidence to the people who think Derren is the Devil Incarnate? Derren Brown; mind reading abilities, hypnosis abilities, atheist, black clothes, goatee&#8230;and now backed by the Torys! <img src='http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/tory-party-proposal-wisdom-crowds/#comment-49141</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhhh!!,..... it&#039;s nice to finally hear others from a Country besides the USA have it&#039;s inhabitants complain about their political system, debt etc I thought that we were all alone out here. I mean I know ours top yours, but still it&#039;s a nice bit of fresh air in a weird sort of way.
Hey, I&#039;m just saying,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhhh!!,&#8230;.. it&#8217;s nice to finally hear others from a Country besides the USA have it&#8217;s inhabitants complain about their political system, debt etc I thought that we were all alone out here. I mean I know ours top yours, but still it&#8217;s a nice bit of fresh air in a weird sort of way.<br />
Hey, I&#8217;m just saying,&#8230;</p>
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