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	<title>Comments on: The First Test That Proves General Theory of Relativity Wrong</title>
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		<title>By: John Carter</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/02/test-proves-general-theory-relativity-wrong/#comment-53643</link>
		<dc:creator>John Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three unfounded beliefs:

- the latest research is the best
- if it&#039;s not in a refereed journal it isn&#039;t true
- if it is, it is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three unfounded beliefs:</p>
<p>- the latest research is the best<br />
- if it&#8217;s not in a refereed journal it isn&#8217;t true<br />
- if it is, it is</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/02/test-proves-general-theory-relativity-wrong/#comment-53152</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really beginning to doubt the skeptic nature of Mr Brown when I read articles like this. He should leave new age bullshit for a while and do some projects with bullshit scientists and their &quot;evidence&quot; and incredible speculations.

&lt;strong&gt;- You&#039;re skeptical about Derren&#039;s skepticism..? hmm... not come across this one. Well if you think the European Space Agency researches &quot;bullshit science&quot; feel free to contact them. - Phillis&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really beginning to doubt the skeptic nature of Mr Brown when I read articles like this. He should leave new age bullshit for a while and do some projects with bullshit scientists and their &#8220;evidence&#8221; and incredible speculations.</p>
<p><strong>- You&#8217;re skeptical about Derren&#8217;s skepticism..? hmm&#8230; not come across this one. Well if you think the European Space Agency researches &#8220;bullshit science&#8221; feel free to contact them. &#8211; Phillis</strong></p>
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		<title>By: gammidgy</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/02/test-proves-general-theory-relativity-wrong/#comment-53132</link>
		<dc:creator>gammidgy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a record for Derren&#039;s blog? I&#039;m used to seeing news items here several days after other blogs have picked them up, but four years!?

Fascinating subject though. What the Softpedia article didn&#039;t say was that it derived from a presentation by the scientists at a one-day ESA conference, i.e. not from a published paper. Such conferences are a notoriously unreliable source of science news. Scientists often give presentations on very speculative ideas and initial, unconfirmed experimental data. I haven&#039;t yet been able to work out if these experimenters ever published their peer-reviewed results. Can anyone help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a record for Derren&#8217;s blog? I&#8217;m used to seeing news items here several days after other blogs have picked them up, but four years!?</p>
<p>Fascinating subject though. What the Softpedia article didn&#8217;t say was that it derived from a presentation by the scientists at a one-day ESA conference, i.e. not from a published paper. Such conferences are a notoriously unreliable source of science news. Scientists often give presentations on very speculative ideas and initial, unconfirmed experimental data. I haven&#8217;t yet been able to work out if these experimenters ever published their peer-reviewed results. Can anyone help?</p>
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		<title>By: Ms G</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/02/test-proves-general-theory-relativity-wrong/#comment-53080</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong but still focussing on the theory and building further from there, with mistakes. All about techniques and newborn psyches.

The coil and electric charge ... interesting that it then becomes magnetic .  from logic reasoning you&#039;d say it pushes everything away. Logic from not knowing anything about it yet that is. Hm ... yeah, yeah . I was hanging in the coil twirling without electric charge .. Ah, . .  Oops, keyboard fails, wont type .. slightly light headed ... I must be in the wrong  state of mind .. not charged enough with electricity I guess (now that I type this it works fine again .. I swichted state .. ).

Einstein .. if only he had seen forward a bit ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong but still focussing on the theory and building further from there, with mistakes. All about techniques and newborn psyches.</p>
<p>The coil and electric charge &#8230; interesting that it then becomes magnetic .  from logic reasoning you&#8217;d say it pushes everything away. Logic from not knowing anything about it yet that is. Hm &#8230; yeah, yeah . I was hanging in the coil twirling without electric charge .. Ah, . .  Oops, keyboard fails, wont type .. slightly light headed &#8230; I must be in the wrong  state of mind .. not charged enough with electricity I guess (now that I type this it works fine again .. I swichted state .. ).</p>
<p>Einstein .. if only he had seen forward a bit &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gabby</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/02/test-proves-general-theory-relativity-wrong/#comment-53074</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like this article is from 2006.
Anybody got an update?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like this article is from 2006.<br />
Anybody got an update?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/02/test-proves-general-theory-relativity-wrong/#comment-53068</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things to note here. First the article you link to is four years old and the results have, as far as I&#039;m aware, not been replicated. The paper discussing this issue (if I have found the correct one http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0603033) doesn&#039;t seem to have been published in a refereed journal which doesn&#039;t reflect well on its quality.

There is another issue. We are well aware that general relativity is not the full story. It is not compatible with quantum mechanics. The current most promising idea is that the full theory is string theory, which at low energies simply reproduces the predictions from general relativity, but at very high energies, when quantum mechanics becomes important, the theory is better behaved than GR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things to note here. First the article you link to is four years old and the results have, as far as I&#8217;m aware, not been replicated. The paper discussing this issue (if I have found the correct one <a href="http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0603033" rel="nofollow">http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0603033</a>) doesn&#8217;t seem to have been published in a refereed journal which doesn&#8217;t reflect well on its quality.</p>
<p>There is another issue. We are well aware that general relativity is not the full story. It is not compatible with quantum mechanics. The current most promising idea is that the full theory is string theory, which at low energies simply reproduces the predictions from general relativity, but at very high energies, when quantum mechanics becomes important, the theory is better behaved than GR.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/02/test-proves-general-theory-relativity-wrong/#comment-53053</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Softpedia article you quote is almost four years old.  Any news on whether this result has been replicated by other teams?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Softpedia article you quote is almost four years old.  Any news on whether this result has been replicated by other teams?</p>
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