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		<title>By: Townes Van Zandt</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/homeopathy-witchcraft-doctors/#comment-59306</link>
		<dc:creator>Townes Van Zandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 12:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gaz: You clearly have no idea what homeopathy is. Absurdly-dilute preparations are made according to Samuel Hahnemann&#039;s brainless prescriptions -- it&#039;s not a catchall term for &quot;untested medical modality,&quot; okay? Hypnotherapy DOESN&#039;T have &quot;reams of scientific evidence&quot; supporting it -- far from it. Hypnosis is a state of overall relaxation but of heightened suggestibility, it doesn&#039;t reveal your deep subconscious desires, it doesn&#039;t cure you from smoking, or fix your marriage, or cure your cancer. And you say witchcraft was &quot;women who practiced medicine in the 1600s&quot;? Did you really misinterpret their use of &quot;witchcraft&quot; here that blatantly? Let me spell it out: witchcraft = magic, homeopathy = magic. In other words, it&#039;s not science, it&#039;s wishful thinking and charlatanism. Get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gaz: You clearly have no idea what homeopathy is. Absurdly-dilute preparations are made according to Samuel Hahnemann&#8217;s brainless prescriptions &#8212; it&#8217;s not a catchall term for &#8220;untested medical modality,&#8221; okay? Hypnotherapy DOESN&#8217;T have &#8220;reams of scientific evidence&#8221; supporting it &#8212; far from it. Hypnosis is a state of overall relaxation but of heightened suggestibility, it doesn&#8217;t reveal your deep subconscious desires, it doesn&#8217;t cure you from smoking, or fix your marriage, or cure your cancer. And you say witchcraft was &#8220;women who practiced medicine in the 1600s&#8221;? Did you really misinterpret their use of &#8220;witchcraft&#8221; here that blatantly? Let me spell it out: witchcraft = magic, homeopathy = magic. In other words, it&#8217;s not science, it&#8217;s wishful thinking and charlatanism. Get it?</p>
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		<title>By: AllanW</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/homeopathy-witchcraft-doctors/#comment-59000</link>
		<dc:creator>AllanW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parliamentary report on measles;

http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpapers/commons/lib/research/briefings/snsg-2581.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parliamentary report on measles;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpapers/commons/lib/research/briefings/snsg-2581.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpapers/commons/lib/research/briefings/snsg-2581.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gully</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/homeopathy-witchcraft-doctors/#comment-58999</link>
		<dc:creator>Gully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I have a healthy dose of skeptism about me!  As far as vaccinations - I haven&#039;t been convinced by any argument against MMR, and have therefore ensured that both my kids have had theirs.  I&#039;m not saying that other peoples contradicting arguments are wrong - but for me, personally,  the evidence just doesn&#039;t weigh up.

On the other hand, I&#039;m yet to be convinced of the cervical jab and am thankful that my kids are little enough that there will be years of evidence before I need to make that decision on their behalf.

Conventional drugs don&#039;t work evenly either - I know as I had a very, very bad reaction to a prescribed migraine tablet a couple of months ago that meant I &#039;lost&#039; 2 days.  I&#039;m in the 1-in-1000 adverse reactions -from just one tablet. Not doing that one again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I have a healthy dose of skeptism about me!  As far as vaccinations &#8211; I haven&#8217;t been convinced by any argument against MMR, and have therefore ensured that both my kids have had theirs.  I&#8217;m not saying that other peoples contradicting arguments are wrong &#8211; but for me, personally,  the evidence just doesn&#8217;t weigh up.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;m yet to be convinced of the cervical jab and am thankful that my kids are little enough that there will be years of evidence before I need to make that decision on their behalf.</p>
<p>Conventional drugs don&#8217;t work evenly either &#8211; I know as I had a very, very bad reaction to a prescribed migraine tablet a couple of months ago that meant I &#8216;lost&#8217; 2 days.  I&#8217;m in the 1-in-1000 adverse reactions -from just one tablet. Not doing that one again!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/homeopathy-witchcraft-doctors/#comment-58993</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 14:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to use Arnica. I always wondered why nothing ever happened, and tried to convince myself that something was happening. 

Then I tried a product called heparinoid cream (Bruiseze is an example) which is medically proven to reduce bruising by breaking down the clots. 

It worked. It has been tested extensively (I believe) and passed. 
Try it. 
(If you have two bruises, try arnica on one and Bruiseze on another).

However, it is right to be sceptical about many things, including the motives of the pharmaceutical industry. 
That means examining the evidence. 

Adverse reactions are unavoidable, but just cause a leaflet says &#039;kidney failure&#039; does not mean that many will get that condition. Herbal remedies can cause equally horrible effects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to use Arnica. I always wondered why nothing ever happened, and tried to convince myself that something was happening. </p>
<p>Then I tried a product called heparinoid cream (Bruiseze is an example) which is medically proven to reduce bruising by breaking down the clots. </p>
<p>It worked. It has been tested extensively (I believe) and passed.<br />
Try it.<br />
(If you have two bruises, try arnica on one and Bruiseze on another).</p>
<p>However, it is right to be sceptical about many things, including the motives of the pharmaceutical industry.<br />
That means examining the evidence. </p>
<p>Adverse reactions are unavoidable, but just cause a leaflet says &#8216;kidney failure&#8217; does not mean that many will get that condition. Herbal remedies can cause equally horrible effects.</p>
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		<title>By: AllanW</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/homeopathy-witchcraft-doctors/#comment-58986</link>
		<dc:creator>AllanW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gully you sound sensible to me. There is a place for little white lies in life as long as they are kept in perspective IMO. But sane, educated adults deluding themselves? No; that&#039;s dangerous. The example you illustrated of vaccine-deniers is terribly damaging. The incidence of diseases that killed large numbers up to the turn of the nineteenth century was reduced to virtually zero by the Sixties after a programme of vaccination produced virtually complete coverage and immunity. The devastating ignorance of vaccination-denial has produced a situation now in parts on London where infection occurences and deaths are on the rise again. The danger this ignorance causes is NOT just to the individuals themselves but has now gone below a critical threshold whereby herd-immunity is compromised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gully you sound sensible to me. There is a place for little white lies in life as long as they are kept in perspective IMO. But sane, educated adults deluding themselves? No; that&#8217;s dangerous. The example you illustrated of vaccine-deniers is terribly damaging. The incidence of diseases that killed large numbers up to the turn of the nineteenth century was reduced to virtually zero by the Sixties after a programme of vaccination produced virtually complete coverage and immunity. The devastating ignorance of vaccination-denial has produced a situation now in parts on London where infection occurences and deaths are on the rise again. The danger this ignorance causes is NOT just to the individuals themselves but has now gone below a critical threshold whereby herd-immunity is compromised.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Durden</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/homeopathy-witchcraft-doctors/#comment-58982</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Durden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 12:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirsty says:  &quot; I myself have used arnica successfully as pain relief ... I’m a perfectly logical and intelligent human being.&quot;

Arnica does not perform any better than placebo in any of the limited trials run. Read some of the research. Perhaps you are logical and intelligent, but certainly not on such matters as pharmacology and biology based on your posts here.

Essentially what you&#039;re saying here is &quot;It worked for me, therefore it works!&quot; - thereby using anecdotal evidence, *not* peer-reviewed, empirical, convergent, independently tested evidence to decide what works - does that sound &quot;logical and intelligent&quot; to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirsty says:  &#8221; I myself have used arnica successfully as pain relief &#8230; I’m a perfectly logical and intelligent human being.&#8221;</p>
<p>Arnica does not perform any better than placebo in any of the limited trials run. Read some of the research. Perhaps you are logical and intelligent, but certainly not on such matters as pharmacology and biology based on your posts here.</p>
<p>Essentially what you&#8217;re saying here is &#8220;It worked for me, therefore it works!&#8221; &#8211; thereby using anecdotal evidence, *not* peer-reviewed, empirical, convergent, independently tested evidence to decide what works &#8211; does that sound &#8220;logical and intelligent&#8221; to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Gully</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/homeopathy-witchcraft-doctors/#comment-58981</link>
		<dc:creator>Gully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 12:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and by that I mean that I&#039;m aware that just because it&#039;s &#039;conventional&#039; medicine, it not infallible and doesn&#039;t have all the answers either.  I have been left wanting by hospitals and doctors on a few previous occasions.
This will not stop me looking to them again in the future, 

Doctors are not always right, correct diagnosis are not always made and I do think it&#039;s good to be able to question the medical profession too - and not to have a completely blind faith in the conventional methods either

Anyway that&#039;s my tuppence worth - back to work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and by that I mean that I&#8217;m aware that just because it&#8217;s &#8216;conventional&#8217; medicine, it not infallible and doesn&#8217;t have all the answers either.  I have been left wanting by hospitals and doctors on a few previous occasions.<br />
This will not stop me looking to them again in the future, </p>
<p>Doctors are not always right, correct diagnosis are not always made and I do think it&#8217;s good to be able to question the medical profession too &#8211; and not to have a completely blind faith in the conventional methods either</p>
<p>Anyway that&#8217;s my tuppence worth &#8211; back to work!</p>
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		<title>By: Gully</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/homeopathy-witchcraft-doctors/#comment-58979</link>
		<dc:creator>Gully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 12:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, a colleague of mine once tried to convince me to rely on homeopathy rather than give my son a vaccination - and the pressure she put on me was quite upsetting as I steadfastly refused to believe her.

Arnica for bruises when the kids get a bump - the little pill thingys - maybe it only works because the kids have to stop crying to take it.  Maybe it works because even under the age of 2 they read my expectation that the egg-sized lump on their forehead will go down and they somehow make it so.  I can&#039;t explain it.  But, I have seen a reduction in the size of bruises on many occasions - a physiological response.  If that is all placebo based - I don&#039;t really care as it&#039;s working for us.

But - if it&#039;s  more major than that - I would always look to conventional medicine first</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, a colleague of mine once tried to convince me to rely on homeopathy rather than give my son a vaccination &#8211; and the pressure she put on me was quite upsetting as I steadfastly refused to believe her.</p>
<p>Arnica for bruises when the kids get a bump &#8211; the little pill thingys &#8211; maybe it only works because the kids have to stop crying to take it.  Maybe it works because even under the age of 2 they read my expectation that the egg-sized lump on their forehead will go down and they somehow make it so.  I can&#8217;t explain it.  But, I have seen a reduction in the size of bruises on many occasions &#8211; a physiological response.  If that is all placebo based &#8211; I don&#8217;t really care as it&#8217;s working for us.</p>
<p>But &#8211; if it&#8217;s  more major than that &#8211; I would always look to conventional medicine first</p>
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		<title>By: Gully</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/homeopathy-witchcraft-doctors/#comment-58978</link>
		<dc:creator>Gully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 12:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in conventional medicine - but the majority of people on this thread will class me as a gullible fool, as I have used 2 homeopathic remedies on my children - Arnica, and the Teetha powder.  

Now, sometimes I&#039;m happy to pay for a placebo, if that&#039;s all I&#039;m paying for.  When your child screams with teething pain in the middle of the night, and they&#039;ve had their dose of painkiller -  having those powders is a godsend.  Please note - I used the powders alongside conventional medication.  They did stop the kids crying, and they calmed down enough to go to sleep.  As the powders were usually given over an hour after the calpol, I can&#039;t fully believe that the painkiller was only just beginning to work at that point.  However it worked, placebo or real - it saved my sanity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in conventional medicine &#8211; but the majority of people on this thread will class me as a gullible fool, as I have used 2 homeopathic remedies on my children &#8211; Arnica, and the Teetha powder.  </p>
<p>Now, sometimes I&#8217;m happy to pay for a placebo, if that&#8217;s all I&#8217;m paying for.  When your child screams with teething pain in the middle of the night, and they&#8217;ve had their dose of painkiller &#8211;  having those powders is a godsend.  Please note &#8211; I used the powders alongside conventional medication.  They did stop the kids crying, and they calmed down enough to go to sleep.  As the powders were usually given over an hour after the calpol, I can&#8217;t fully believe that the painkiller was only just beginning to work at that point.  However it worked, placebo or real &#8211; it saved my sanity!</p>
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		<title>By: AllanW</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllanW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 11:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nina; “I completely object to being labelled irrational/vacuous/uniformed/ignorant just because I believe in homeopathy.”

But the adjectives apply I’m afraid. You have demonstrated how accurate they are with your views on this thread. But don’t be disheartened; no one here assumes that this is a complete description of you. Just on this issue. And you can correct your ignorance by some learning so chin-up! But I would honestly suggest that you will get this type of response to further illustrations of ignorant behaviour in the future so should try to either avoid those issues in which you just ‘have an opinion’ and concentrate upon those in which you ‘have an informed opinion’. 

After all, the only thing you have been subjected to are a few pixels arranging themselves into certain shapes on an open forum, you haven’t been physically attacked or even threatened so try to understand that perspective, hmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nina; “I completely object to being labelled irrational/vacuous/uniformed/ignorant just because I believe in homeopathy.”</p>
<p>But the adjectives apply I’m afraid. You have demonstrated how accurate they are with your views on this thread. But don’t be disheartened; no one here assumes that this is a complete description of you. Just on this issue. And you can correct your ignorance by some learning so chin-up! But I would honestly suggest that you will get this type of response to further illustrations of ignorant behaviour in the future so should try to either avoid those issues in which you just ‘have an opinion’ and concentrate upon those in which you ‘have an informed opinion’. </p>
<p>After all, the only thing you have been subjected to are a few pixels arranging themselves into certain shapes on an open forum, you haven’t been physically attacked or even threatened so try to understand that perspective, hmm?</p>
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