Comments on: The last uncontacted tribe in Brazilian Jungle under threat http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/ The official Derren Brown Blog Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:25:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Berber Anna http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/#comment-81452 Berber Anna Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:42:46 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=15704#comment-81452 Don: I'd leave them to it. In cases like this, Asimov's Laws of Robotics actually make sense. It's worse to actively harm than 'through inaction to allow to come to harm' (first vs second law). Intervention would mean actively harming several people to save one child, which might still die of disease. Also, if they are anything like most cultures that practiced child sacrifice, the child will be treated extremely well until they kill it and its loved ones will believe it is with their gods, which means that there is not a lot of suffering involved (as there would be at the post-intervention stage). Don: I’d leave them to it. In cases like this, Asimov’s Laws of Robotics actually make sense. It’s worse to actively harm than ‘through inaction to allow to come to harm’ (first vs second law). Intervention would mean actively harming several people to save one child, which might still die of disease. Also, if they are anything like most cultures that practiced child sacrifice, the child will be treated extremely well until they kill it and its loved ones will believe it is with their gods, which means that there is not a lot of suffering involved (as there would be at the post-intervention stage).

]]> By: Don http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/#comment-81450 Don Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:01:07 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=15704#comment-81450 T, Yeah, Human Planet has been a humbling experience. Apart from the moments that make you want to 'Yay, humans!' The fact is that if they are contacted it won't be by people who want to help, but by people who want to enslave, exploit or exterminate. May I suggest a thought experiment? Let's say we find a tribe which has existed without contact for millenia, which lives in harmony with nature and which contact would destroy through viruses etc. We observe from afar with our clever technology and discover that an important part of their culture is the annual sacrifice of a child. Not to intervene is to be complicit in the evisceration of a child. To intervene means the end of the very last truly ancient culture. And a lot of dead children through disease. What would you do? T,

Yeah, Human Planet has been a humbling experience. Apart from the moments that make you want to ‘Yay, humans!’

The fact is that if they are contacted it won’t be by people who want to help, but by people who want to enslave, exploit or exterminate.

May I suggest a thought experiment? Let’s say we find a tribe which has existed without contact for millenia, which lives in harmony with nature and which contact would destroy through viruses etc. We observe from afar with our clever technology and discover that an important part of their culture is the annual sacrifice of a child.

Not to intervene is to be complicit in the evisceration of a child. To intervene means the end of the very last truly ancient culture. And a lot of dead children through disease.

What would you do?

]]> By: Liz http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/#comment-81445 Liz Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:19:39 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=15704#comment-81445 Whether it's a hoax or not, the narrator sounds like she's narrating Walking with Dinosaurs... They are human beings geez! Whether it’s a hoax or not, the narrator sounds like she’s narrating Walking with Dinosaurs… They are human beings geez!

]]> By: Slugsie http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/#comment-81438 Slugsie Mon, 07 Feb 2011 14:26:03 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=15704#comment-81438 You know that this sort of thing could never happen here in the UK. After all, here are a bunch of people who aren't paying taxes, no way they could be left alone. You know that this sort of thing could never happen here in the UK. After all, here are a bunch of people who aren’t paying taxes, no way they could be left alone.

]]> By: T http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/#comment-81228 T Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:43:23 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=15704#comment-81228 The BBC camera team were filming for 'Human Planet' episode 4 i think it is. The jungle episode. Amazing series. The BBC camera team were filming for ‘Human Planet’ episode 4 i think it is. The jungle episode. Amazing series.

]]> By: HARRY M http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/#comment-81225 HARRY M Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:11:02 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=15704#comment-81225 Its so sad that people are doing this to others.... :( Its so sad that people are doing this to others….

:(

]]> By: zoe http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/#comment-81166 zoe Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:39:52 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=15704#comment-81166 uhh... the signing thhing at the end doesnt work. anyway, wow! i think its ther coise wheather 2 be contacted or not. uhh… the signing thhing at the end doesnt work. anyway, wow! i think its ther coise wheather 2 be contacted or not.

]]> By: YerFatUglyMama http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/#comment-81066 YerFatUglyMama Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:16:55 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=15704#comment-81066 There is a good possibility that this video may be a hoax. Word has it that it is related to a story from 2008. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/04/uncontacted-amazon-tribe-video_n_818621.html A quote from the above link "EDITOR'S NOTE: Unfounded allegations have been made that this video is a hoax because similar photos of the same tribe that were released in 2008 were incorrectly reported in the media as being an "undiscovered" tribe, thus leading to rumors of them being fake. CLICK HERE for more info on the "hoax" rumors being debunked in 2008" http://www.survivalinternational.org/news/3670 There is a good possibility that this video may be a hoax. Word has it that it is related to a story from 2008.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/04/uncontacted-amazon-tribe-video_n_818621.html
A quote from the above link

“EDITOR’S NOTE: Unfounded allegations have been made that this video is a hoax because similar photos of the same tribe that were released in 2008 were incorrectly reported in the media as being an “undiscovered” tribe, thus leading to rumors of them being fake. CLICK HERE for more info on the “hoax” rumors being debunked in 2008″

http://www.survivalinternational.org/news/3670

]]> By: George http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/02/uncontacted-tribe-brazilian-jungle-threat/#comment-81065 George Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:14:17 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?p=15704#comment-81065 Puts things in perspective doesnt it. I moan if my computer goes down at work or at a traffic jam. They have a threat of death from a common cold and losing their way of life. If I was them, I wouldnt want to contact us either. Can we watch the full documentary somewhere as it looks fascinating? On another note. I was waiting to hear Mulder's voice pop up. Puts things in perspective doesnt it.
I moan if my computer goes down at work or at a traffic jam. They have a threat of death from a common cold and losing their way of life.
If I was them, I wouldnt want to contact us either. Can we watch the full documentary somewhere as it looks fascinating?

On another note. I was waiting to hear Mulder’s voice pop up.

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