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	<title>Comments on: People Will Virtually Kill One To Save Five</title>
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		<title>By: Shaun Banks</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/12/people-virtually-kill-save/#comment-98028</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Banks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote Spock &quot;The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few&quot; 

It all just boils down to simple maths - so long as you kill less than you save it will all be all right in the end. If you have to kill talentless celebrities then don&#039;t even bother with the math or worry about saving anyone, just kill them all (Film the killings obviously as this is what they would have wanted).

Obviously it will always depend on who you are saving and who you are killing to be able to make a sensible choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Spock &#8220;The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few&#8221; </p>
<p>It all just boils down to simple maths &#8211; so long as you kill less than you save it will all be all right in the end. If you have to kill talentless celebrities then don&#8217;t even bother with the math or worry about saving anyone, just kill them all (Film the killings obviously as this is what they would have wanted).</p>
<p>Obviously it will always depend on who you are saving and who you are killing to be able to make a sensible choice.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/12/people-virtually-kill-save/#comment-97972</link>
		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“participants who did not pull the switch were more emotionally aroused. Nobody knows why that is”
Might it be that they perceive making a decision (right, wrong or ambivalent) in such situations, as implicating themselves in the outcome? Whereas doing nothing, permits them to retain a modicum of detachment. 

&quot;sacrificing one to save many &quot;
Err… may I suggest that those predisposed to the alternative response in large percentages, may well have removed themselves and their tribes from the gene pool some time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“participants who did not pull the switch were more emotionally aroused. Nobody knows why that is”<br />
Might it be that they perceive making a decision (right, wrong or ambivalent) in such situations, as implicating themselves in the outcome? Whereas doing nothing, permits them to retain a modicum of detachment. </p>
<p>&#8220;sacrificing one to save many &#8221;<br />
Err… may I suggest that those predisposed to the alternative response in large percentages, may well have removed themselves and their tribes from the gene pool some time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: spiderabc1</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/12/people-virtually-kill-save/#comment-97900</link>
		<dc:creator>spiderabc1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Berber Anna - apparently prison has been rather cuchti for while now ; ) - I get your point of course. 

And it&#039;s nice to know someone else is on the internet early in the morning reading this blog. As an outsider I would have picked chocolate ice cream and for the country, obviously Svalbard ; ) re:DB live show</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Berber Anna &#8211; apparently prison has been rather cuchti for while now ; ) &#8211; I get your point of course. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s nice to know someone else is on the internet early in the morning reading this blog. As an outsider I would have picked chocolate ice cream and for the country, obviously Svalbard ; ) re:DB live show</p>
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		<title>By: Berber Anna</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/12/people-virtually-kill-save/#comment-97884</link>
		<dc:creator>Berber Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In real life, while doing nothing may be negligence, pulling the switch is manslaughter. I&#039;d prefer not to go to prison, so I&#039;d do nothing (apart from yelling to warn the 5).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In real life, while doing nothing may be negligence, pulling the switch is manslaughter. I&#8217;d prefer not to go to prison, so I&#8217;d do nothing (apart from yelling to warn the 5).</p>
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		<title>By: I3R0K3N7FEET</title>
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		<dc:creator>I3R0K3N7FEET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why am I in control of the train and why are there people on the tracks?

The way the simulation is worded, that the single person &#039;wouldnt see the train coming&#039;, does that mean that the group of 5 would see it coming? Then should I really be responsible to undermine the intelligence of 5 human beings and kill an unsuspecting victim? 

In a real life situation you would be able to see, or at least you would assume so if youre making the decision,  what happens and how people react and it is likely you would make some calls and have them arrested/ removed. If its a split second decision.. then I would have to consider the track that the train would take and the dangers of that too. By then it would be too late and I&#039;d simply decide what right do I have over other peoples lives anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why am I in control of the train and why are there people on the tracks?</p>
<p>The way the simulation is worded, that the single person &#8216;wouldnt see the train coming&#8217;, does that mean that the group of 5 would see it coming? Then should I really be responsible to undermine the intelligence of 5 human beings and kill an unsuspecting victim? </p>
<p>In a real life situation you would be able to see, or at least you would assume so if youre making the decision,  what happens and how people react and it is likely you would make some calls and have them arrested/ removed. If its a split second decision.. then I would have to consider the track that the train would take and the dangers of that too. By then it would be too late and I&#8217;d simply decide what right do I have over other peoples lives anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/12/people-virtually-kill-save/#comment-97733</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>virtually is pretty key. As a test, this is totally useless IMO. People behave radically different in virtual worlds since it&#039;s a place to &quot;act out&quot; on emotions and decisions you&#039;d not otherwise necessarily make. Just look at the GTA games as an example, and Fable too perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>virtually is pretty key. As a test, this is totally useless IMO. People behave radically different in virtual worlds since it&#8217;s a place to &#8220;act out&#8221; on emotions and decisions you&#8217;d not otherwise necessarily make. Just look at the GTA games as an example, and Fable too perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/12/people-virtually-kill-save/#comment-97688</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What were the hikers walking on a live railway line for anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What were the hikers walking on a live railway line for anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now make the lone hiker the subjetcs father and see how that affects the figures.  What would it take to tip the balance?  Five people, ten, twenty?  Very difficult decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now make the lone hiker the subjetcs father and see how that affects the figures.  What would it take to tip the balance?  Five people, ten, twenty?  Very difficult decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren (@TheGrottoTweets)</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/12/people-virtually-kill-save/#comment-97574</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren (@TheGrottoTweets)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We call this &quot;The Trolley Problem&quot; in America. Long a favorite of academia, whether you&#039;re studying psychology, philosophy or law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We call this &#8220;The Trolley Problem&#8221; in America. Long a favorite of academia, whether you&#8217;re studying psychology, philosophy or law.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem</a></p>
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		<title>By: Merle</title>
		<link>http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/12/people-virtually-kill-save/#comment-97556</link>
		<dc:creator>Merle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radiolab examined this same problem, with a twist, in their episode on Morality:

http://www.radiolab.org/2007/aug/13/chimp-fights-and-trolley-rides/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radiolab examined this same problem, with a twist, in their episode on Morality:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.radiolab.org/2007/aug/13/chimp-fights-and-trolley-rides/" rel="nofollow">http://www.radiolab.org/2007/aug/13/chimp-fights-and-trolley-rides/</a></p>
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