Comments on: Episode 4 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog The official Derren Brown Blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:29:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: dip http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-53330 dip Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:56:15 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-53330 i am not a "believer" in such things as spirits or psychic ability, and preffer to get my head round the scientific side of things rather than accepting phenomena at face value.however a few years ago when i was a bit younger i did used to dabble alot with the ouija board, and got quite dragged in. i accept the reality that the glass is indeed being moved unconciously by the participants. however i have one problem that has nagged at my reasoning ever since, which i try hard to ignore. i was told on numerous occasions, by the ouija board (or myself?) of occurences that had not yet happened at the time, and have since. as i said, i do not accept the explanation of "spirits", or "psychic ability" as i believe this to be quack. however i cant deny what happened... any help? i am not a “believer” in such things as spirits or psychic ability, and preffer to get my head round the scientific side of things rather than accepting phenomena at face value.however a few years ago when i was a bit younger i did used to dabble alot with the ouija board, and got quite dragged in.
i accept the reality that the glass is indeed being moved unconciously by the participants.
however i have one problem that has nagged at my reasoning ever since, which i try hard to ignore.
i was told on numerous occasions, by the ouija board (or myself?) of occurences that had not yet happened at the time, and have since.
as i said, i do not accept the explanation of “spirits”, or “psychic ability” as i believe this to be quack.
however i cant deny what happened…

any help?

]]> By: Peter Prevos http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-49407 Peter Prevos Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:46:07 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-49407 The Faraday experiment proves that the force does not act on the glass. There is still the option that the 'ghost' acts on the fingers. Peter The Faraday experiment proves that the force does not act on the glass. There is still the option that the ‘ghost’ acts on the fingers.

Peter

]]> By: JibJib http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-47649 JibJib Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:16:38 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-47649 @kuryaki Dont touch the planchette at all and see if it moves. If it doesnt move, which it wont, then somehow the movement is connected to you. I wonder how? @kuryaki Dont touch the planchette at all and see if it moves. If it doesnt move, which it wont, then somehow the movement is connected to you. I wonder how?

]]> By: Alexkazam http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-47645 Alexkazam Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:24:48 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-47645 Great experiment- the ideomotor effect is really quite powerful - because it's below the concious level it makes it look the the plachette is moving by the spirits. There are other great ideomotor experiments such as "muscle reading" (done several times by Derren) and I found I could influence someones choice of a card from 5 face down cards if they were holding my arm and I focussed on them choosing the card- this is where our ideomotor responses are actually communicating. Great experiment- the ideomotor effect is really quite powerful – because it’s below the concious level it makes it look the the plachette is moving by the spirits. There are other great ideomotor experiments such as “muscle reading” (done several times by Derren) and I found I could influence someones choice of a card from 5 face down cards if they were holding my arm and I focussed on them choosing the card- this is where our ideomotor responses are actually communicating.

]]> By: Alex http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-46663 Alex Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:48:46 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-46663 Many things, is Kat Akingbade BSc yet to become aware of Many things, is Kat Akingbade BSc yet to become aware of

]]> By: kuryaki http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-45332 kuryaki Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:51:44 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-45332 Just one more note.. Regardless of what it spells out or not.. THE planchette is moving.. and the best EXPERIMENT to date for anyone who really wants to know if it moves or not.. is TRY IT OUT YOURSELF!! with no one else so that you don't have any doubts of anyone else moving it. IF you so don't believe in the paranormal then you have nothing to be scared of right? so were my own thoughts which drove me to experiment. ONly those who try it on their own will know and feel what I just described. Make a simple board by youself at home.. don't give up if u don't feel anything in the beginning it takes time . Just one more note.. Regardless of what it spells out or not.. THE planchette is moving.. and the best EXPERIMENT to date for anyone who really wants to know if it moves or not.. is TRY IT OUT YOURSELF!! with no one else so that you don’t have any doubts of anyone else moving it. IF you so don’t believe in the paranormal then you have nothing to be scared of right? so were my own thoughts which drove me to experiment. ONly those who try it on their own will know and feel what I just described. Make a simple board by youself at home.. don’t give up if u don’t feel anything in the beginning it takes time .

]]> By: kuryaki http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-45331 kuryaki Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:44:28 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-45331 hey phillis- I hope you can also tell if the cake is safe to eat or not? hey phillis- I hope you can also tell if the cake is safe to eat or not?

]]> By: kuryaki http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-45314 kuryaki Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:27:50 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-45314 continued.. the best way I can describe it is like a magnet. Once whatever is there My hands feel like metal to the planchette, the planchette being the magnet. When playing alone there's no DOUBT what's going on. SO anyway I went on to the blindfold experiment as my brother observed.. same thing happened as in the video. According to research and experts.. the energy matter/spirit whatever u wanna call it needs our eyes/vision just like it needs our hands to move planchette. I"m still a skeptic about unexplainable things but I certaintly do not have any doubts about who is moving the darn thing. I will never try it again.. i had my piece of proof. Just wanted to share. <strong>- I can tell when there is cake in a room even if it's in a box and wrapped up. - Phillis</strong> continued.. the best way I can describe it is like a magnet. Once whatever is there My hands feel like metal to the planchette, the planchette being the magnet. When playing alone there’s no DOUBT what’s going on. SO anyway I went on to the blindfold experiment as my brother observed.. same thing happened as in the video. According to research and experts.. the energy matter/spirit whatever u wanna call it needs our eyes/vision just like it needs our hands to move planchette. I”m still a skeptic about unexplainable things but I certaintly do not have any doubts about who is moving the darn thing. I will never try it again.. i had my piece of proof.
Just wanted to share.

- I can tell when there is cake in a room even if it’s in a box and wrapped up. – Phillis

]]> By: kuryaki http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-45312 kuryaki Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:23:44 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-45312 OH no way.. I can't believe people can still be fooled into the ideomotor scam. I am a skeptic of the ouija and it was the Penn&Tellers experiment who got my curiousity sparking.. so of course I had to try it. I made my own ouija not easy to glide the darn thing on cardboard but.. after about 30-40 minutes of attempting to contact anything or something? whatever it is.. it worked. I can feel the force of the energy moving it.. not only sliding but it twisted the planchette a full 180* degrees without my hands MOVING! My hands came off the planchette and it continued to move a bit after. THERES NO WAY in hell that someone is NOW going to convince me that I'm moving it. When I start moving the planchette it's a feeling you can just tell when finally something or someone is there controlling it there's a forceable feeling on it.. OH no way.. I can’t believe people can still be fooled into the ideomotor scam. I am a skeptic of the ouija and it was the Penn&Tellers experiment who got my curiousity sparking.. so of course I had to try it. I made my own ouija not easy to glide the darn thing on cardboard but.. after about 30-40 minutes of attempting to contact anything or something? whatever it is.. it worked. I can feel the force of the energy moving it.. not only sliding but it twisted the planchette a full 180* degrees without my hands MOVING! My hands came off the planchette and it continued to move a bit after. THERES NO WAY in hell that someone is NOW going to convince me that I’m moving it. When I start moving the planchette it’s a feeling you can just tell when finally something or someone is there controlling it there’s a forceable feeling on it..

]]> By: M L http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/science-scams/episode-4/#comment-44166 M L Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:40:59 +0000 http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/?page_id=6672#comment-44166 @Paul. Generally there is a specific intention to asking the questions and so the group will subconsciously choose the answer they are as a majority expecting. At least thats my theory. @Paul. Generally there is a specific intention to asking the questions and so the group will subconsciously choose the answer they are as a majority expecting. At least thats my theory.

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