Derren travels to the US to investigate claims of one man who says he has proof of ghosts, demonicÂ possessionÂ and evidence of the afterlife.
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This looks like it’s gonna be a good one – am looking forward to it 🙂
For the next series (if there is going to be one..!), can Derren investigate why it takes so bloody long for our “super-fast” university internet connection to load snail mail 🙁
It would not surprised if the man has tourettes. I have tourettes and when I got really sick I had full body tics about that bad.
In any case I think he deserves medical attention not this. I personally think the devil is more at work in the beating of gays than this crap.
Ooh scary :S
I surely cannot be the only person who think that this guy in the video is just having a seizure.
Though can’t comment too much until Monday when I see the full picture.
In regards of my own opinion. I’ve seen a ghost, felt one and communicated with one so I can definitely believe anyone who says they have evidence.
Why do these stools meet Derren and then go on TV with this pish?
Either they’re fully deranged and actually believe they can do what they do, or they’re so egotistical they think they’re talented and experienced enough in fooling people to hoodwink us all.
THAT’S his proof? Jesus, even i could come up with better fakery with that if i really applied myself.
troubling? disturbing? complete wank? we’ll just have to wait to hear what Derren was about to say.
If a ghost really came and possessed some one’s body. I would hope they had a better reason then to make the body shake and scream, surely they could deliver a message or finish some unfinished business or anything at all but simply screaming and shakin? What’s the point? I don’t get it.
The screaming was horrible – literally painful.
Whilst I do believe in ghosts (but not demons,) I’m not sure about possessions…If being possessed is to have a spirit enter your body, then surely we’re all possesed now, by our own souls? Why would being possessed make you scream and have a fit, then? Also, I don’t get why a spirit would even want to possess someone’s body if it means they can only scream and not talk….This is going to be an interesting episode.
I’d say it looks like evidence of a seizure of some description, although it wouldn’t be hard to fake it either. I’d have to see the context to be able to make that call. But it’s a big leap from that to being demonically posessed.
Half the high security psychiatric wards in the world are full of people with symptoms that could be loosely interpreted as demonic possession, (ranting, seizures, obscenity, delusions) but who come well within established medical diagnosis. My mate is bi-polar, but if you accepted his word for it when he’s having an extreme episode, he is sometimes Jesus.
Naturally he’s no more Jesus than David Icke is onto a global conspiracy of lizard people in disguise.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
it does look like a seizure. however, i wonder why they always seem to call on jesus to exorcise demons. quite a few years ago, there was a not-so-famous guy in the US who usta convince em to leave just by using rational discourse with em. praps the jesus crowd are just bigots who are convinced demons wont listen to such stuff?
Any plans to make this material available to your fans in the US?
It’s ironic that most people who claim to be possessed are Catholic and all very highly suggestible. In my book it is all about auto-suggestion at work. But like a stage hypnosis show were I find the highly-suggestible people and they play along seemingly unaware with this new reality and the more they play along the more they get caught in the whole believe.
That’s what this is in my humble opinion. Instead of a person giving suggestions they give themselves the suggestion.
Much like you can talk yourself ill to the point you feel sick and tired. You can also talk yourself into believing you are possessed especially when your world model includes demonic possession.
poor guy… he needs medical attention, not quackery.
can’t wait!!!!! also, does anyone know if Enigma is ever going to be available on DVD? I would very much like to see it, but I live in Canada…
That looks like a normal weekday morning for me, to be honest, but then I do drink a lot of caffeine as soon as I get to work.
I look forward to understanding the criteria for proof and the evidence that this gentleman has gathered for the existence of ghosts and/or paranormal entities. Thank you, Derren, for being part of the team that finds and investigates the people and systems that have appeared on this series.
AHa! Proof/evidence of after life. I have that too. You know .. those bones and skeletons … After life … the angels are wurms and parasites and such .. Heavenly soil .. Or ash … arising from its ashes like a fenix … Don’t we do that all the time already … dead .. alive .. dead .. alive ..
Ghosts … I hear banging on walls too … I dont even bother anymore what or who that is coming from .. Those that dont use polite manners or cant speak properly or communicate in whatever way .. will not be seen upon by me. What? Me not being on top of the language? Banging on walls is a language? Aah … now I can see clearly now … I see it … I do believe ..
Too bad we can’t see it .. these documentaries. What? Yet? Not yet? Do I hear someone overthere say that we will see …
That’s some freaky shit right there !
Oh, I thought this was just gonna be about a ghost hunter. The demonic possession and Christian aspect will make it even more interesting. It will make it more disturbing, too, that people can be so deluded.
@J-S-R ~ I am sure it’s Autumn time for the DVD.
That guy looks like he needs PR Diazepam… :/ (lol)
But this looks like it’s going to be really interesting! I’m already ‘spreading the word’ for folks to watch!
Look forward to many more of the same in the future…. loving the series so far 😀
YAAAAAAAAAAY! I have been looking forward to this one!
Well firstly…. What a croc of shit. Love the shows. The Americans are so dumb. I just can’t understand how anyone can believe this… And why does it only really happen in America? It’s like UFO sightings… Mostly in America. I think a large number of Americans are delusional and believe anything. The whole country is run on fear and I think this is another example of someone taking advantage of that fear.
Allan: The JREF (of Million Dollar Challenge fame, and organisers of TAM) is also based in the US, as is Michael Shermer’s Skeptics Society.
I don’t think we can point to any nation and claim it engages in pseudoscience and superstition because its inhabitants are dumb or fearful. Superstition is a very human trait that’s seen in any country, and generalising by nationality isn’t going to help anything.
I wonder whether this couple is being aware of what they are doing .. if not .. I’d recommend them to see a doctor or such .. . Barking dogs .. dont they sense an epileptic seizure ? Dogs? Which is apparently not the case here, otherwise they would not aks for an excorcist I guess.
Probably depressed people .. and this is their outlet.
And the guy who claims he can get ghosts and such out of their body .. does he simply play along with those people .. not believing in it himself but with good intentions or is he just one of those who have a slight personality disorder as well .. liking to be in control .. liking to be kind of a god .. etc .. depressed as well ofcourse .. in the core .. that’s where many disorders come from. People deal different with life and theirselves ..
Hey Derren, wish you’d come and investigate me (NOT an innuendo) – I got “healing hands syndrome” about ten years back after a period of fairly heavy meditation, tai chi, vision quests, etc and even though I’m generally pretty sceptically-minded I really can’t deny the efficacy of it: I mean, I saw loads of what people might call ‘miracles’ through me own wee hands (bodies, emotions, mental blockages fixed, etc). Even did what seemed like an exorcism once – though I didn’t know it was going to happen, was just doing a standard healing on a guy when he started making all these crazy, guttural noises and his chest AND back simultaneously expanded. Afterwards, he was calm and clear and being really, really nice, whereas before he’d been well negative and rude. TBH, I dunno what to make of it.
Pretty cool but there’s all sorts of confounding variables involved, like people have been noting. It could have been a medical condition, or even a hallucination brought upon by some sort of drug. The thing that got me was the praying…the guy continued the prayer as long as he could end the “exorcism” at the same time as the end of the “fit”.
looks like a seizure to me
Hey Berber: thanks for the reference. It’s nice to see that there are some Americans with some idea of reality. However any country that elects George w bush in for three terms has got to be a little crazy.
Excellent! I wonder how hard Derren had to dig his nails into his palm not to laugh out loud?
@JSR and Cory
Yup Enigma was filmed while Derren was at Wimbledon, ure prob get the DVD on Amazon in the “fall”
I REALLY hope Derren does another, longer series like this.
I hope he fits into James Randi’s shoes when the time comes !
1 Million USD and 1000 ppl have tried and ALL FAILED. Says it all really dont it ?
On a side note I went to a Psychic thing the other night, what a load of horse shit ! I asked why she didnt go collect the easy 1 Million USD from James Randi if she cud do what she “tried” to make us believe she cud do. Security moved me on ! LOL
Im NOT saying there are no Mediums out there. BUT 1000 ppl attempt and FAIL with FLYING COLOURS……….. God bles James Randi and Derren Brown
PLZ DERREN, MAKE SURE YOU DO ANOTHER SERIES LIKE THIS !!!
@ Paul: Coincidentally, I just read the James Randi rules – not that I’m after going for his million dollar prize or owt – and one thing that struck me was that he states that a person must have a “media presence”. Now, immediately that made me think that, 1. People in this game who do have media presences seem more interested in the fame/money thing than “being real” 2. People I’ve come across that do (IMO) have genuine gifts don’t seem at all interested in generating a media presence or doing tests and stuff (and I’m talking maybe 3 or 4 people). Bit Catch 22 really.
Enjoyed the shows – targets maybe a wee bit easy but seems like it’s just the start of something. Funny thing, near the end I thought, hm, Derren seems to have sort of undermined this whole guy’s reason for living…
Rory, the media presence thing was only added about 2 years ago, as they had a lot of deluded people come in with bizarre claims (like the lady who thought she could make people wet themselves if she prayed for it). They figured that if someone actually had anything resembling special powers, some sort of media outlet — and this could be the local rag for all they care — would find it interesting enough to report on. That’s all the requirement is there for, to weed out those whose claims are all inside their own head.
@ Berber Anna (a Moroccan Beach Boys lover, by any chance?)
Nice one – thanks for the info. I can see why that makes sense. A lotta quacks out there! 🙂