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Posted by Derren Brown News October 28, 2011 at 7:28 pm

Just a little reminder that the second episode in ‘The Experiments’ series airs tonight at 9pm on Channel 4.

Leave your thoughts on the show in the comments section below, or click here to watch a sneak preview :)

COMMENTS
October 28, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Spike says:

Love the glasses over the mask 2 back from Derren. You never saw that on V for Vendetta. :)


October 28, 2011 at 8:16 pm
AlexanderK says:

heh i didnt notice Derren in the middle with so many masks!!


October 28, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Bryony says:

I can’t wait for tonight’s show. Last week blew me away, as usual, you clever, clever bastard! Try as I might to learn your tricks and work out what is going on in your mind, just as I think I have you all figured out, you pull something amazing out of the bag AGAIN!


October 28, 2011 at 8:40 pm
saul says:

not only that but everyone is looking straight but the guy next to the girl with glasses is looking through you.


October 28, 2011 at 9:01 pm

Haha Spike.
But on the subject of the show, with the masks and group mentality, their moral compasses will be different from on their own without the mask as with the masks, they loose their sense of individualisation. An example (albeit an extreme one) is the KKK.


October 28, 2011 at 9:20 pm
name says:

still trying to work out the earlier one where he could have jumped out the window…


October 28, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Dougie&Mandy says:

Love the fact you are interacting Derren. Great idea tonight. Can’t wait to see how it goes. Dougie (keeping his top on). My captcha code was f 2 u 4.


October 28, 2011 at 9:30 pm
aimee says:

Derren Brown has highly developed supernatural demonic powers; notheless he is extremely clever, fascinating and intriguing. In fact I would love to participate in one of his shows. Does anyone know how can I apply to be part of audience/participant?


October 28, 2011 at 9:35 pm
ricky says:

talk about lead them on to make bade things happen to him! you should of made them feel sorry for him to see if they still do the bad stuff to him!


October 28, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Phill Midwinter says:

I have a feeling we’re the audience being manipulated into letting something go too far… great show so far


October 28, 2011 at 9:53 pm
name says:

LOL at myself – I have worked it out now.

Notice how the bad answer is always B


October 28, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Andrew says:

I am a fan but I am afraid that I have just voted with my finger and stopped watching this program, very disturbing and not my idea of entertainment.


October 28, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Cassie Messer says:

Dont know why, just feels like they are all actors including Chris. I thought you couldn’t arrest or accuse some one of shop lifting until they have left the premises with the items? Still interesting to see how they are voting, we are all basically evil!


October 28, 2011 at 9:59 pm
DavidC says:

“Underwear Drawer”? .. or was it … “Move The Legs!” ?

Dai


October 28, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Hayley says:

Deeply disturbing viewing. Chilling, in fact.

Thanks.


October 28, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Rachel says:

So good Derren,really good and an interesting look on how we are!My god the crowd looked so guilty at the end!Deadly!


October 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm
gill says:

Incredible, Derren..like a modern day Milgram experiment, loved it!


October 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Nathan says:

Powerful stuff! Very entertaining (if that is the right word).


October 28, 2011 at 10:11 pm
michelle jones says:

Loved the show and just show what human beings are capable of, only problem is my daughter burst into tears when the guy got hit by the car at the end.


October 28, 2011 at 10:12 pm
emma says:

Shows how easily persuaded we as the human race can be!


October 28, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Zoe says:

Just finished watching this and it really freaked me out how easy it is for people to make horrid decsions so fast. I was willing for something nice to happen to him. When he got hit by that car i felt sick and just wanted to know he was ok.


October 28, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Abi Road says:

He was wrong. He said as the show continued they acted more like a pack & lost their individuality, but the % votes for negative experiences went DOWN. The first vote, for the pinchy ass girl was 80% or thereabouts but later ones, the shoplifting & the arrest were only 65% or so. There were also 2 that he didn’t mention the % for I’d guess the majority vote for bad times was miniscule in these instances. They didn’t act more like faceless crowd as it wen’t on, they acted less like one. The percentages prove it. Myth Busted.


October 28, 2011 at 10:14 pm
hector says:

love everything u do!u r awesome!,hope to meet u one day (soon).


October 28, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Andy says:

Is the voting data going to become available? Did people increasingly vote with the mob?


October 28, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Jess says:

Quite inspiring. Hopefully society will change or question their actions after seeing this. Not only by rioting, but by the need to realise not to abject the abnormal…. A normal society inflicting pain on the abnormal others. A very awakening realisation on our choices and behaviours.


October 28, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Jasmine. says:

Blew Me Away!

Loved it!

x


October 28, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Barbara says:

Just watched tonights show and found it extremely interesting and very frightening. The majority voted negatively but there was a small number who didn’t, they wanted the best (albeit at times) to happen to the subject of the experiment. What makes these people different from the mob mentality? Maybe they were the more brighter ones who worked out at the very beginning, that the audience was the subject matter. Clearly I seem to be more interested in those people who didn’t react in the same way. Overall I thought the show very thought provoking bearing in mind it is my first experience of the work of this incredible Darren Brown.


October 28, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Adam Hickey says:

Thought it was a really good show. I was shocked at how far the audience would go, in so far as to wreck his house. It was also interesting to see their reactions. I would be interested to know more about the results from the audience, like age ranges etc.
I knew that the last few minutes were going to be fake though as soon as Derren said “For the next 50 minutes, what you will see is real” as Orson Welles used the same trick when he did F for Fake. Thought it was a nice nod.

One of your best. Very interesting, albeit very disturbing.


October 28, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Emma says:

Amazing show tonight. Facinating yet terrifying at the same time – it makes you wonder if that’s going to be you.
The end was especially awesome. To see their reaction after such a climatic hype when they were cheering for his possessions to get destroyed was intense.
It makes me wonder what’s going on in their minds now that the cameras have been shut off.

This is definitely something we need to bear in mind. As a Psychology student we’ve done studies on things similar to this, and as entertaining as it is, it’s terrifying, especially because not succumbing to that form of behaviour is easier said than done.

Thank you incredibly much for this show tonight! :)

There’s so much more to say about this show but I can’t quite find the words to say.


October 28, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Pat Stacey says:

Just watched the show. You are an incredible entertainer, but much more than that. You are making extraordinary, thought-provoking television. Keep fighting the good fight against the charlatans, the chancers and the dim-witted.


October 28, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Jonathan says:

Omg that was awesome Thought he actually got run over you awesome derren : ) hekdbsosnnbkbshshsjsjsbsksbjsksbsjsosn


October 28, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Exile says:

Faceless crowds have been the same since the dawn of society, this was just a novel way of explaining it to the masses, something which has needed to be done for a while, since the general mainstream media have sensationalized every riot, protest or street war ever.
This, and the national lottery predictions from a while back, are irrefutable proof that a crowd is logical yet unfeeling, whereas a single persons’ logic is often marred by emotions… A subtle balance would be a group of no more than 5 Vulcans… LOL


October 28, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Bro says:

Would love to know the science behind it all. Worrying that human nature in relatively ‘nice’ people could cause horror like this. What does it take to push somebody over the edge? Nice lesson in morality. Enlightening show. Thanks. Hope Kris recovered from it all!!!!


October 28, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Enigma says:

Bravo bravo. Well done. Just shows what people will put a man throuh in the name of entertainment. Bet some may think he’s all right it’s just a game, shame on you. It’s not a mob mentallity,” it’s better to see someone suffer to make me feel good”. That just sucks. life is not a game, people hurt. In more way than you think.


October 28, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Gavin says:

Just goes to show we really have not advanced at all from the crowds of the gladiatorial arenas of ancient Rome. But was a really brilliant show, incredibly uncomfortable to watch particularly towards the end but it is as a uncomfortable subject for us to see the true dark side of our nature that can only be expected. The audience looked completely devastated at the end and I almost had to laugh at the complaints about continuing to film them, obviously didn’t like the feelings of giult much!


October 28, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Mel says:

This is all completely ridiculous. This was not a “genuine, unfaked” experiment. Is this man licensed to conduct potentially damaging psychological experiments? I think not. Every single one of his “unsuspecting” audience members and participants is an actor. I know this because every single one of his audience members would have had to undergo a full debrief, interview and psychological evaluation to ensure that none of them suffered long term psychological damage after having just seen what they thought was a member of the public being hit by a car. There are massive ethical issues. This in no way goes any length to explain the psychology of mob mentality as the audience members (were they in fact genuine at all) were under the belief that they were participating in a television show. Of course any genuine audience member would opt for the more entertaining and comical option which turned out to be the negative option. They would be acting under the belief that a television show would not actually allow any real harm to come to an “unsuspecting” member of the public. Total rubbish.


October 28, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Gareth says:

Can’t say that was my favourite one. It was a bit “meh”.

Last week’s was much better.


October 28, 2011 at 10:39 pm
steve says:

lol i actually thought he had been hit by a car

how can people doubt derren

people say he just does it for tele and everything is fake however i have been lucky enough to be in an audience of derren brown (evening of wonders)

and i was lucky enough to take part in one of his tricks (20 questions)

whoever doubts this man should fuck themselves as i have witnessed him up close and there is no one better in the world


October 28, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Abi Road says:

“Dont know why, just feels like they are all actors including Chris. I thought you couldn’t arrest or accuse some one of shop lifting until they have left the premises with the items? ” Absolutely right you can’t. The person has to actually leave the premises before you can even accuse them. Also it’s unlikely a store would call the police for what he took? I agree the whole film was a set up & Chris an actor. As for the way the crowd voted, it was all played that the bad choices would be jolly good fun & “Chris” was set up as being a bit of an ass. The audience were certainly led into the first choice by the mention of him cheating on his girlfriend just before they made the decision.


October 28, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Mags says:

Must be honest, didn’t find this your most thrilling work: a gameshow is way too artificial an environment to get a genuine result. People *know* gameshows are a set up. The first and last 10 minutes were awesome (what about throwing yourself through a door and off a ledge – that made me go wow!) – and the looks on the faces of the audience at the end were a picture. But the rest, nah. Looking forward to next week’s show upping the ante :-)


October 28, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Adrian says:

Derren,

Even though as a viewer I suspected something fishy (like his work colleague was blatently an actress), I was home alone and not in a ‘mob’ so understand how the audience might have seen things differently.

However, I suspect a great deal of this was not necessarily jusrt ‘mob mentality’ but social loafing and peer pressure. Social loafing in that “surely the program makers will step in if needs be, I don’t need to do anything”. Peer pressure due to the fact they are a TV audience and feel they have to contribute to making good tv. Plus a little suggestability to tip it over the 50% majority needed by your cheeky deminour enticing them to the bad options each time.

Nonetheless, a fantastic show and so pleased you cleverly made up for this poor guys day!


October 28, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Debbie Kerr says:

I was part of the audience on this…..!!!! It was a fantastic show..total shocker at the end but very thought provoking. I wasn’t evil the whole way through. Makes you think though x


October 28, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Abi Road says:

Also we were told that if the audience had picked the “good” outcomes then that’s what would have happened, but is any production company going to go to the time, money & effort of filming that stunt if there is a chance it won’t be used. My feeling is the votes were manipulated, either artificially or, & for me this is more likely (& less disappointing) the audience were not voting in the way they wanted to but were manipulated into voting the way Derren wanted them to, which was the real experiment. Or it was all a big hoax but a decent bit of entertainment.


October 28, 2011 at 10:44 pm
James says:

@Andy
Seconded! I would love to see the statistics too.


October 28, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Paul says:

Were big fans, read the books and seen some shows. But this was more Big Brother than Mind Control.
Depressing reality TV, reflecting how easy it is to whip up a crowd into destructive behaviour. I feel Chris could have probably done with a bit of company after his ordeal. Did he just get a letter or a debrief? I wonder what he would do to the audience?


October 28, 2011 at 10:52 pm
pam says:

Not a real experiment – upmarket candid camera


October 28, 2011 at 10:53 pm
@rosscoshell says:

That show was greatly done Derren. You and your team done well in making people open their eyes across the whole country to just how cruel they can be. I hope the show has drummed something in to people to be themselves and not become pack animals. In some respect everyone in the audience had a degree of gameshow allowance in them – as it was a game they may of had that reserved feeling that all was safe. If we did not act with pack instinct we would be living in a much better place. Welldone again. With you on the impact moments. Very effective.


October 28, 2011 at 10:54 pm
pam says:

agree wholeheartedly with abi road


October 28, 2011 at 10:57 pm

I started off laughing & thinking how much fun the show was. But as it went on, the smile started slipping & I was thinking, “No way, I wouldn’t choose the B option this time.” And I felt more & more sorry for poor Kris…
But as I was watching the show alone & wasn’t part of a crowd, who’s to say whether my options would have changed in the company of others?

Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the show very much. It cleverly highlighted how our cruel tendencies can materialise in certain situations. But I confess to feeling more & more uncomfortable as the show progressed. My pity went from Kris & then to the audience as towards the end they came to realise that the choices they’d made weren’t such fun & games after all….

LC x


October 28, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Darkus says:

Mr Brown, you are a legend!!

Its a sorry state we’re in when a majority can only wish ill upon their fellow man! I’d have stood up in the audience and laughed as I would have voted for the Happy ending! People forget they affect peoples lives every single day.. how bout if the roles were reversed, would such evil thoughts run through your mind Then I wonder.. :-) excellent programming! :Dark xx


October 28, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Luke says:

Fascinating portrayal of Crowd Psychology.

A couple of comments,

FIrstly, as Andy has mentioned, voting is the fulcrum element of the ‘show’ and if this data is going to be published I would be really interested in the demographics of voting after each of the ‘persuader’ segments. Obviously the audience or ‘crowd’ were given convincers / incentives as to how they would vote.

Secondly, and with reference to, but more over, from the first point there appeared to be a couple of levels of artifice: The audience members who instigated the goading of the crowd – stooges? Also, the constant shots of applauding each degoratorive stage of Chris’s experience – editing? It is worth remembering this experiment was also aimed at us, the viewer, to elicit a response and make an opinion…


October 28, 2011 at 11:06 pm
mikdeazy says:

Incredibly broken looks on the audiences faces says it all really – and my mind was blowing right along with theirs, a frightening glimpse into mob psych that as you said were all guilty of to some degree.

Incidentally does he get a replacement X-Box too ? lol as it caught a glancing blow from that alu. bat lol ?

Simply wow – keep up the good work Derren, always fascinates and intrigues though sometimes it also scares the pants off the audience hehe

just caught the end on +1 again to hear the reactions, gotta say well acted too “i cant hear ,… thers too many of you talking” let them stew, and drop the bomb on them hehe

Their hearts are in their mouths, very well played ;-)


October 28, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Kaye says:

This has certainly sparked a spirited debate in our house. We are all appalled and are guessing at the information we don’t know. Would love to see the data on the voting. Did anyone try to leave?


October 28, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Rose Childs says:

very uncomfortable to watch, I have previously loved all of Derren Brown’s shows, at the end of it all I’m not sure what the point is?


October 28, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Jon thompson says:

Hopefully now people will realise the importance of standing up and being counted for what they genuinely believe in. Really enjoyed watching the show, would dream to someday take part myself. Until then… congratulations to you all


October 28, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Jacqueline says:

Absolutely brilliant, well done Derren and team. It reminded me of the earlier stuff, emotionally charged, not just for the participants, but for the viewers. I was hooked throughout, and the accident at the end was genius. Such a potent message. I also loved the humor, hysterical laughing at the beginning from me, ‘Sausages filled with farts’ XD. More like this please :-D


October 28, 2011 at 11:20 pm
IanH says:

This has to be his most disappointing show – reactions were totally predictable – the most surprising thing was how many at times picked the other option – B being only 60% on one vote.


October 28, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Russell says:

Sorry, but that’s the first of your shows that I’ve found to be very flawed: you can not create a mob mentality in a game show – there is no element of right and wrong because it is a protected environment; TV show which we all know is monitored. It’s done through fun and most people would have a laugh – there was no end consequence because he wasn’t losing his job etc etc. In the same way people would be mock mean to friends but protect them to the hilt if it was real. I’m not sure it’s possible to test this theory without making people actually attack a shop or the like – but no-one is going to want to be filmed doing that!!

Assassin was good, Guilty looks great but today was very poor and not at all a ‘fair test’ or an accurate way of showing mob mentality.


October 28, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Joe says:

Just showed how sick we can be! What does this mean for all of us?


October 28, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Jacqueline says:

Lick his sheets? Said Dave Aww XD. Despite the humor, have to say Dave looked genuinely upset after he’d smashed the TV, such a nice guy.


October 28, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Kerry says:

I’m so very pleased that I disagreed with the audience I wasn’t goaded into putting another person through so much stress!!! What are people like?? why do they love hurting and upsetting people??? but yet it’snot so funny when it goes wrong!! eh?? thank god it was just a set up…but lets hope all those human beings with feelings in the audience will think twice if they see or hear of someone that is having a bad time will not just stand back and do nothing!!!!! if u see a person that is being harrassed….intervene…even if it is to say hiya..u ok?? even if u don’t know them…. someone being given a hard time is never funny!!! would you have such a laugh if it was your father, sister, brother or mother or your mate!!! I think not!!!! we need to look out for each other!


October 28, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Jessica says:

What an amazing show;) I didn’t believe that dude was hit, he didn’t face the camera:/
This clearly shows all of us could have a dark side..
Look forward to the next series:D x x


October 28, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Kmenzzy says:

I thought the show was pretty awesome. It really creeped me out near the end when they demanded for the television to be smashed. I totally thought at the end the would choose the crash price for him.
Scary Shit


October 28, 2011 at 11:37 pm
wookie says:

The Xbox took a bashing! hope the harddrives ok :S

Mums are right. It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt…
Something about the whole game show and riley crowd reminded me of the Arnie film “The Running Man”, scary stuff.


October 28, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Jack says:

Great show but I wanted to ask one question:

Can we know any more about Jenny? Was she aware of the overall idea of The Experiment or did she believe that Remote Control was a real programme? Her willingness to participate in the events which befell Kris confused me somewhat. Was she genuinely that willing to tell her friend he’d been made redundant?


October 28, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Tim says:

One of the most entertaining pieces of telly I’ve seen in ages. Derren is a legend. Brilliant stuff!!


October 28, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Natasha says:

As part of the audience of the show, i began by first picking the nicer option, however as the show progressed i began to feel more comfortable being part of a group. Anyone saying that the guy chris is an actor..i was there and we were watching it live, he is not an actor as my friend was one of those also interviewed for possibly being in derren browns future shows before we went to film this in the studio but several are picked out and interviewed and only one chosen. Also the main aim is to outline how easily our behaviour can change and cybe bullying. Derren brown is trying to make a point that is very true and relevant to today, even if it was a set up its still outlining a vital problem. i would have voted differently watching at home.


October 28, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Martin Green says:

Some decades back I was with my usual group of friends & a few other groups from the same village plus a few new faces.

Among the mix was a friend who was liked and known by all groups. However, he had the label of ‘Village Idiot’ due to his schooling with special needs pupils. He became the focus of our ‘expression of bonding’ by becoming a target. The large group of friends spat on & burned holes with their cigarettes in his puffy body warmer whilst he was still wearing it. He was encircled and ‘mobbed.’

He was scared, confused and desperate. To my horror I impulsively spat on his clothes. He saw me and was astonished I had done it. He was angry only with me & could not believe I joined in with the crowd.

I experienced unforgettable shame & loss of self. One of my greatest regrets.


October 28, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Carmen says:

I’ve always found the Derren Brown shows amazing and the psychology very interesting
Tonight, I find the show very odd. What were the actual statistics of the 2 options? Were any of the results faked? It seemed like the audience had no morals whilst I was screaming to choose A!
Interesting stuff :)


October 28, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Psycodelik says:

I’ve been a fan of Derren’s stuff for a few years now, but this one… It just seems wrong… The production company allowed this guy’s house to be trashed, his stuff violated – who knows what could have happened if he had, for example, not deleted his internet history and had something embarrasing on there, or if he’d reacted violently to the girl’s confrontational boyfriend or the man in the shop?

Surely nobody would like to be mocked on national tv, having their house searched and with events happening to them which could potentially psychologically damage them.

It just seems like Chris was put through mental torture for Derren’s show and then given a free tv and a letter at the end to ‘make everything better’?


October 29, 2011 at 12:04 am
Martin Green says:

I love the work Derren does. It is fascinating and immensely informative as well as entertaining. Tonight’s programme however, I believe is arguably one of his most important and instructive shows and possibly one of the most important and revealing shows ever to appear on television.

It is vital people understand how easily people can be manipulated and overwhelmed amidst a crowd.

At the end of the programme whilst the audience sat aghast in silence, I was clapping very loud.

It would have been an even more amazing show if the crowd had voted to give Chris a super positive evening out !


October 29, 2011 at 12:07 am
Don says:

I agree that we should see the data. Any chance of that?


October 29, 2011 at 12:11 am
Patrick says:

Show was amazing as ever. Producer Dave is cute.


October 29, 2011 at 12:24 am
Dan says:

I thought tonight’s program was fantastic, thank you for making outstanding, intelligent entertainment, you are a legend.

Dan


October 29, 2011 at 12:37 am
nathan says:

I can agree that it seemed a bit silly because it was a gameshow and Derren was co-ercing the crowd but if you really were watching, then you should of noticed the change of atmosphere in the crowd when they were filiming in his bedroom, you can really see the mob mentality take over. One person starts shouting over derren talking to take tip his pants drawer out (WTF??) and within the next minute the majority of the audience are yelling random violent ideas which culminates in them celebrating at his TV getting smashed to pieces. You could see that some peoples reactions were uneasy but still clapping and going along with it. So If you watched the whole thing you can realise that derren is trying to show how mob mentality can take over and have a mind of its own regardless of the context.


October 29, 2011 at 12:42 am
Rose says:

The more the show carried on, the more sickening my stomach felt. It was the laughter from the audience that really got to me. The audience knew the cause and effect they had on Chris, yet through a little encouragment and some studio lights they became sadistic.
Yet I couldn’t stop watching what would happen! Another strange behaviour- finding some sort of interest from cruel behaviour between people.
It was lovely to see every one of the audience members clearly in shock; the act of taking their masks off was incredibly moving. You could see them pulling back, away from the mob identity and back into their own.

I reckon your best series Mr Brown! How wonderful and weirdly human you are good sir! I wish you, with all the success you have achieved, a stupendous amount of love & happiness


October 29, 2011 at 12:57 am
Daniel says:

Exactly Nathan :) Alot of people are missing the point on this one. Regardless of the fact it was a gameshow Derren DID NOT suggest in any way for the TV to be smashed and he was working within boundaries of A)postive Action or B)Negative action. So he was at worst just fuel yet the audience, or whatever small majority, light the match and took it on themselves to set fire the house (so to speak). So the data regarding percent of people who chose a or b is not that important because the fact that some chose a positive action yet were happy (I didnt hear any boos or anyone making any vocal disagreements) to follow along with the crowd was disturbing. Also the fact that they wore masks meant that they could anonymously voice or show their disagreement if they voted for A) but B) was chosen.


October 29, 2011 at 1:05 am
Declan says:

Thought it was slightly contorted to disclose past shortcomings of the target (Him cheating on his girlfriend).

Surely, this immediately gave the viewers and audience a negative preconception of his character. Perhaps it would have been more scientific, interesting, and fairer to all concerned if you ran a mirror experiment showing how people reacted to someone they had a positive preconception of.

I understand that the experiment would not have worked as well if a preconception of the character was not induced, but I think both positive and negative preconceptions should have been represented.


October 29, 2011 at 1:11 am
Key says:

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October 29, 2011 at 1:18 am
Daniel says:

I am concerned for Derren on this one as I dont think all the feedback is going to be most welcoming (I hope I’m wrong), however that being said I thought the show was fantastically put together as I always expect from his great mind and team of producers. My Idol, a true inspiration. Cannot wait for the next show. :)


October 29, 2011 at 1:25 am

I get the point of it but what a load of pathetic sheep!
The only thing I can say in their defence is that they MAY have:
1) felt like they had to go with the spirit of the show because there seemed to be a lot more encouragement, by way of suggested gratification & approval, from DB each time they responded negatively.
2) looked on it as entertainment that wasn’t really real because of the setting & faith that it was a controlled environment.
I also don’t think it proved the point of behavioural anonimity, although I’m sure that this behaviour would & has happened in reallity


October 29, 2011 at 1:27 am
David says:

Much as I like Derrens shows,this wasnt one of the best. Nothing was proved,the audience had no choice in what they chose,the banal,or the entertaining,what do you think they will go for? Also,I cant believe the audience believed he had really been hit.They were on a tv show,a Derren Brown show,they knew everything they were watching was fake,why then believe the fake ending? The whole thing was fake,I dont believe Derren was even talking to any of the actors,it was clearly already filmed. Anyone taken in by that ending is very sad,sorry.


October 29, 2011 at 1:29 am
Jon C says:

The high level of audience manipulation was completely legit in this experiment. It deftly confronted the decade of abusive TV we`ve been collectively degraded by since Big Brother`s UK debut.
But I`m not sure we were witnessing true mob cruelty in Remote Control. The reward for the victim in these Beadles About-esque shows is for the victim to find out that life`s not as awful as they thought it was.
I love being hoaxed. The moment of realization is always worth it. The audience knows this.
An experiment where the audience could actually believe they are making him lose his job for real would have been a more powerful experiment to try and pull off.
The most interesting moment was the smashing of the TV set in his invaded house – which crossed the line from hoaxing into true malice.


October 29, 2011 at 1:36 am
tommie says:

Don’t really believe in commenting as who am I to judge but have few things to say. After watching everything derren has ever done tonight was the first time I’ve been disappointed. While the idea was good the content and references felt a little insulting. The test was also significantly flawed because of the crowds reassurance that everything would end up ok. For example if they knew he was actually going to be hurt would they have voted? Forgetting all that it just seem to lack the unexplained magic of derrens usual shows.


October 29, 2011 at 1:41 am
Adam says:

Any chance of a follow up (or dvd extra) with more of Chris – what he thought of nightmare night out and if possible more footage of the aftermath of the events. We only seen what happened and not what he said to his mates.
Ok I am nosy.

Great show Darren, close to the edge and the audiences faces at the end :O mirrored mine,.


October 29, 2011 at 1:43 am
Matthew Read says:

Reading all your comments I feel Derren has got to everyone of you, even those who think it was all fake and actors throughout!

This was a brilliant insight into how groups of people can escalate into mobs or gangs just like a pack of Hounds chase a fox and egg each other on.

He is fantasic at what he does be it real or set up, and I think its real for the record, and can’t wait for next week!


October 29, 2011 at 1:56 am
Matt says:

I found tonight’s show slightly disappointing and unfair. Derren compared the act of the audience choosing to bestow the participant with bad things to that of the riot mentality. What wasn’t considered in this show was that the audience were in a very different state to those of rioters. They were in a TV studio and knew that people wanted to watch good TV. They knew that the show would be boring if they only chose the nice things. It was almost expected of them that they would choose bad things. You can’t compare this ‘experiment’ to anything else fairly, as this was conducted in a very different setting with people on different emotional levels and with prior expectations.

It was also unfair, and incomparable to anything else, as some of the audience would have know that it wasn’t a si


October 29, 2011 at 1:59 am
Matt says:

It was also unfair, and incomparable to anything else, as some of the audience would have know that it wasn’t a simple show they were watching. People who know of Derren know that there’s usually a twist and that things aren’t as simple as they perceive. Some of the audience would have been ‘playing the game’, knowing that in real-life no one was being hurt.

I think it’s unfair how this show was used to show the mentality of groups of people. You can’t compare this show to anything else-real world.

Having said this, I am a huge Derren fan, and am really looking forward to the next show.


October 29, 2011 at 2:20 am
Ruben says:

As always your shows manage to delve into the depths of the human pysche, only this time I was really disturbed as to what was found there – I hate to see the worst in people , but seeing the crowd slowly condemn this stranger to so many things and actually voting to have him kidnapped was terrifying; it made me feel sick to watch as they unwittingly ruined poor Kris’s evening without thinking of any consequences and made me start to doubt humanity – if he really had been kidnapped, it would have been a traumatizing experience for the rest of his life. It’s hard to say what I’d have done in that crowd, but I think I would have been one of the few people to choose option A – even from the start I was uncomfortable with what was happening.
Another brilliant insight into the mind – thank you!


October 29, 2011 at 3:11 am
Kartik says:

Derren, I’m 14, and that just blew me away. Having been a victim of mob mentality in a similarly anonymous situation, I can appreciate how these things spiral out of control. I didn’t understand how you had a TV ready to wrap up for Chris after someone spontaneously suggested the producer destroy it. I assume this was staged – the guy yelling ‘Smash the TV” but the real brilliance of your show was how fast that one, apathetic concept spread from a half hearted joke to something they were all clamouring for.

You have me hooked.


October 29, 2011 at 3:15 am
Eve says:

@Luke, I think you’re missing the
Point; (with all due respect). Put simply how do decent people become so “un decent”? By a little manipulation (Derren brown) and by being egged on (stooges). The point is, that’s all
It takes!!!! That’s shocking in itself. I think of the school teacher that was arrested for his part in the London riots. How did he go from respectable to a hooligan? Quite easily if “remote control” is anything to go by…..shocking


October 29, 2011 at 4:45 am
reece says:

you got him a new tv fast


October 29, 2011 at 5:19 am
LastLizard says:

I think Derren is doing a fantastic job. Over the years he has progressed from an entertainer to a much needed educator of social problems. Not so long ago I found myself a victim of the “mobbing Syndrome” much like what was portrayed in the games how episode.

It is a serious and growing problem in modern culture and needs to be taken seriously as the psychological consequences can be devastating for the victim. I implore every reader to educate themselves on this phenomenon.

Keep up the good work Derren.


October 29, 2011 at 6:52 am
Ash says:

I really liked the show.

It was interesting to see the (majority of the) audience pick the cruellest option just because that provided the most entertainment.

The saving grace is the 20/30% of the audience who towards the end wanted to see him gifted with a good outcome. Although some of them may have chose that option just to break the pattern/feel individual.


October 29, 2011 at 7:43 am
jac says:

Like the previous reply we as a household would like to know how the voting went . We are divided some believe that all agreed and others that some did not. to stop this difference of opinion please give us the data


October 29, 2011 at 8:56 am
Leah says:

For those who thought it was supposed to be entertainment, it wasn’t it was an experiment, that’s why it is called ‘The Experiments’! Anyway, I thought it was a really interesting show, whole household were shocked, though I suppose we can’t really judge, because if we’d been in that environment, with secured anonymous votes, then maybe we would have done it differently. I have loved all of your shows, and I can’t wait for next week!


October 29, 2011 at 9:01 am
Leah says:

Although, do agree with Abi Roads comments, there was something fishy about the voting, else why did he stop saying the percentage!


October 29, 2011 at 9:24 am
wendy says:

A very interesting experiment though l found it hard to watch at times. The positive aspect would be that a minority of audience didnt vote for negative option. Felt sorry for chris but at the end felt some sympathy for the audience as they may have felt they were being made a fool of, even though they ‘wished’ that on chris. I would have been interested in hearing some of the audience members views on what they experienced and how it affected them.


October 29, 2011 at 9:34 am
Dan says:

Two thing frightened me about this programme:

1. How easily the audience was led into shocking acts.

2. How much Derren seemed to be enjoying his role as gameshow host. (I vote we get him to reprise Blind Date)

PS. Derren – Were you behind the Hackney Riots?


October 29, 2011 at 9:35 am
Emma says:

I thought it actually proved the opposite of what it set out to achieve. The audience chose the bad option as it was a candid camera style GAMESHOW they thought they were participating in. The minute they thought the car had hit him had they truely been affected by mob rule cruely they would have still cheered at his misfortune. But they were unanimously horrified and the majority removed their mask immediately as if to want to take responsibilty rather than carry on hiding behind it. To me it showed that actually the majority of us are decent and know when things have gone too far.Doing things for a laugh in a gameshow is very different from the reality if the mob rioting behaviour we saw so tragically back in July.


October 29, 2011 at 9:44 am
Andy H says:

I agree with some of the comments on here that it all seemed a little staged. Was Chris an actor too? I think had you chosen a sweet innocent girl or a family man in his forties, an all over good guy then the results would have been a lot different. But Chris was a but of a lad, a joker himself, he cheated in his girlfriend and you got the impression that when he found out he would have appreciated the joke. Accused of pinching a girls bum; not that bad, accused of shoplifting, not that bad, being told he’s being fired, i think the audience would have reasonably expected that would not to be ultimately true and i don’t think for a second that anyone in the audience would have expected for a second that he would have got run over. Like has been said before it was the premise if a gameshow and the audience knew there would be tight controls In place for anything bad to happen. I think if people thought they were making genine and long lasting decisions about this guys life and nit just the night from hell then I think the results would have been very different. I’m a huge fan of Derrens but I must admit that I was left a little disappointed by this experiment.


October 29, 2011 at 9:54 am
George says:

Brilliant. Bloody brilliant.


October 29, 2011 at 10:05 am
David says:

I watched this program with suspicion: something felt fake about it, maybe Chris was in on it all along, even the audience.
It seemed to go too far with the laundry basket ‘planted?’ underwear and smashing up the tv.
You could also sense something would go horribly wrong at the end. Something that would leave either the audience or viewer with ‘egg on their face’.
Not sure I learned anything from it.


October 29, 2011 at 10:26 am
Siobhan says:

Surely within the context of a gameshow hosted by Derren Brown this isn’t a real demonstration of Deindividuation. Within this context I don’t see that the choices made by the crowd as anti normative, The social norms are hugely shifted by the cameras, any previous knowledge of Derrens work, and other factors.
Interesting Telly indeed, and I am as always a fan but not sound experiment to my mind, and certainly not an experiment that a psychologist would ever get ethical approval for.
I do hope the audience were handled very carefully and went home with a real understanding of what they had been part of. Not 100%sure how I feel about this one… But as always food for thought and has sparked some good debate in my house!


October 29, 2011 at 10:27 am
Sirius Mcpudd says:

Amazin show! Shows jus how ‘mob’ behavior is everywhere n in anyone. Mrs were nearly cryin 4 de fella! I knew there was goin 2 be a serious 1 at de end. Most of dem were quite mild, jus kinda annoyances, easily shrugged off until it really got mean 2wards end. Great show, can’t wait til next week!


October 29, 2011 at 10:32 am
Joel says:

Fascinating TV and disturbing to say the least. I’d be interested to know how many (if any) of the audience walked out and when.


October 29, 2011 at 10:37 am
Anton Binder says:

I normally love Derren Brown but this was a little too contrived. Can’t help feeling WE were being manipulated at least as much as the studio audience. The timings on the footage were far too slick to really be a genuine live feed. Did you notice at the start the ‘girlfriend’ scratched her nose before Derren asked her to and he just thanked her and glossed over the obvious continuity error. (what invisible ‘spooks style tech’ was he actually supposed to be using to talk to them anyway?) I suspect the footage was actually pre-recorded in anticipation of the audiences obvious and blatently manipulated decisions. (e.g. the guy was set up as a cheating knob from the beginning). Oh and what was the point of the guy in the flat’s head camera when he was being filmed by crew in the flat anyway?


October 29, 2011 at 10:41 am
George says:

How appalled by themselves did the audience look! Bit scary though how easy it is to get swept away by the majority.


October 29, 2011 at 10:51 am
Audrey says:

1 of 3 I think…
I would have to agree with the comments regarding the game show as a “fake” scenario. At all points during the show, the audience would still have felt that it was a) a game show – ie. not REALLY the police/kidnap etc, and b) under the control of Derren Brown (who himself was “Priming” through his manner of presentation – the gleeful condoning of “being a bit mean”…plus showing the “nasty” side of Chris – cheating on his gf – would have got the “female” B vote!)

While I would have been interested in the stats of the SPEED of response for the “nasty” option as the show went on, and certainly there was no denying (unless in the case of stooges) that the audience were calling for some pretty unpleasant things to happen in Chris’s house.


October 29, 2011 at 10:52 am
Audrey says:

2 of 3
I am not convinced this set out what Derren Brown was claiming to show.

I personally suspect that even without masks, the same response would have been elicited because as mentioned earlier – Derren Brown could have been perceived as saying it was ok, and the thought process was one more of obedience (Milgram – if the person in charge was in the room, obedience was greater), similarly, Chris was remote (Milgram – if the “victim” is remote, there is less guilt in administering a “punishment”). Further Derren’s own introduction talked about audiences on X-factor – they aren’t masked and still behave poorly.


October 29, 2011 at 10:53 am
Audrey says:

3 of 3
The masks may have played some part in the audience not speaking to each other to discuss “ooh, this is a bit mean”. (…and if those people calling out directions to Dave were not stooges – this isn’t unusual behaviour in a comedy club – why would it be so now?)

While some of Derren Brown’s shows are phenomenal – and I also agree that the first 10 minutes were fantastic, this, and another one he did some time ago, I find a bit patronising – almost as if someone with the amount of talent Derren Brown has is choosing to revert to sensationalism while showing something that has been “proved” long ago – “Groupthink” (Sherrif), “Obedience” – remote victim/proximate experimenter (Milgra3m), “Conformity” (Asch and others), Mob mentality/power (Zimbardo)…


October 29, 2011 at 10:53 am
Audrey says:

4 of 4 (I lied)
that anyone who has taken GCSE psychology should be aware of (not only in terms of the finding, but in terms of the problems with the experiments in the difficulty of separating confounding variables – which Derren Brown has also not improved on).

If the point is to show how we, as a society, are still as capable of this kind of behaviour – did he really need to go further than the riots that swept London – it’s VERY evident that we no longer “love thy neighbour” in a very real life scenario.

Derren Brown is an entertainer, and until these “experiments” – and some of the ones he did previously, I would have said he was one of the masters – he knows his stuff and uses it to enthrall us. However, he is not a teacher.


October 29, 2011 at 10:54 am
Jens says:

Brilliant piece of work.

I was kind of meh, through out the show – until the end where I was almost in tears.

Great job as always.


October 29, 2011 at 10:57 am
Alexandra says:

It would be interesting to see the statistics, however they can be deemed irrelevant sometimes. The majority may have been 51% in some instances, but it was still the majority; that is what counts. One or two more people voted for the positive than the negative, and that is what matters.
Also, they aren’t stooges or anything! How many times can he say this until people stop questioning him?! They wouldn’t need to go through the debrief until AFTER the experiment; they participated as an audience, and in a way it was important that he didn’t see if any of them where ‘sheep’ and followed what people around them were doing, as this was about how being anonymous can affect our morals, therefore it is not full of flaws!
Incredible Derren – genuinely. I was so shocked when he got hit by the car, I would have got up to see if he was okay like that lady!


October 29, 2011 at 11:01 am
Ed says:

We switched on at the start. My wife, who doesn’t normally follow Derren’s shows, said, “This looks like it might be OK.” 10 minutes in, she said, “this is not good to watch.” We switched off. I have read up on what happened in the rest of the show. It seems her instinct was right

What Derren appears to have done is demonstrate what we already know from the popularity of many tv shows and magazines… people like watching others suffer, especially if they are rich, famous or just a little arrogant. It seems to be a destructive addiction in society that is being fed incessantly by editors and tv producers.

If Derren’s show helps us learn from the negative aspects of such behaviour, then that will be good. But my feeling is it was more about entertainment than a social ‘wake up’ call.


October 29, 2011 at 11:39 am
Roger leek says:

Watched the programe last night-excellent as always- found it left myself and my partner unsettled, and certainly caused discussion. She’s a psychologist with more then a passing interest in peoples behaviour.I found the reaction of the audience fascinating -I believe I only heard one person ask if the victim was alright and did you notice how some, put the masks back on at the end!!!.I thought the “victims” behaviour, despite all that he ad thrown at him 1st class and a joy to watch .As some bloggers have said this idea is not new , read “Lord of the Flies” as an example . However once again Derren (bless his little cotton socks)and his team have used their skills to not only entertain, but also make us think and question.


October 29, 2011 at 11:55 am
Rory says:

Well, I was expecting something more but it was interesting as well. Just I can’t believe that so many people thought that it was him when he was run by a car. Then I immediately know that this part is only to fool the audience. They looked like they feel so rubbish and tricked after the show – I think they wanted to do something good later.

Also, I think that because he cheated on his girlfriend and usually made many jokes on others – people felt more free to turn the jokes on him.

But in the end they had a free choice – even if they wanted bad things to happen to him – for fun and entertain, they still know that it’s all real for him. And this is the part where it’s not good anymore.


October 29, 2011 at 11:57 am
Machupiku says:

Loved the show. I too wondered if the first shouter was a stooge , but as soon as they had “permission” to yell , I believe all if that was genuine. It’s just like any of these reality shows, theob is awful. However, I think there was more to chris than appeared. He took it all calmly… actor, or guy who’d been warned that he may be used for a show , and to go along with anything odd that happened to him? Of course the very fact I’m responding prob. means im falling into derrens evil plans!


October 29, 2011 at 12:11 pm

utterly shocked by last nights show. it was interesting to see the behaviour of a crowd but towards the end I was feeling more and more that it had gone far enough. to a point where a group of people are willing for the guy believe he is going to lose his job and then to get him kidnapped, i was shocked. it shows how faceless people will act when those around them have a negative mindset.


October 29, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Dan says:

One thing I can’t stand is someone being victimised (whether it be Domestic abuse, bullying, fake or reality) so I found this programme difficult to watch. At the end of the day, this is entertainment & I accept that the programme was what it was. However, I do think that the ‘experiment’ was forced down a particular route. Also, that the audience knew that whatever happens to Chris it will not go to far because it is a TV show – they are more likely to ‘see what happens’. I feel it could have been improved by

a) Having two audiences, two similar but different people (different background stories – positive and negative)

b) Derren playing a neutral role rather than influencing the audience (“the audience are playing havic” suggests a negative outcome).

c) always stating the %


October 29, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Surya says:

As a huge Derren Brown fan I was massively disappointed by last night’s show. Even if you hadn’t seen Orson Welles classic ‘F for Fake’ it didn’t take much to realise the 50 minutes of truth would be followed by a bunch of untruths once the 50 mins had expired. And the ‘experiment’ has been done many times before by psychologists – notably by Stanley Milgram who asked volunteers to administer pain to other volunteers to show what people might do if they were allowed/encouraged to. It was a way of explaining the collective horror that was Nazi Germany. But Derren didn’t credit either Orson Welles or Stanley Milgram in his version. This was poor, manipulative and derivative. I love Derren for what he does and for the way he thinks – but he’s better than this.


October 29, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Russ says:

There is no doubt the experpiment was entertaining and clearly showed up a disturbing aspect of crowd psychology, however don’t give up on humanity yet. The experiment was not simply an observation of a crowd but an observation of manipulation by an authority figure. Derren and his team were obviously setting out to represent Chris poorly in the eyes of the crowd; as a man deserving of his come-uppance.

Derren would laugh and act carefree when harmful choices were made and always displayed confidence. There can be no doubt that the audience members would have felt free to act foolishly not just because they were de-individualised and in a crowd, but because they trusted the Television industry to not allow anything harmful to happen (or for generous recompense to Chris to be made later).

So yes, crowds are susceptible to foolishness but theye are also susceptible to great good; it depends on the skill of the leader.


October 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Seti says:

Sorry, I love Derren but this didn’t work for me because it missed one basic premise. The audience all thought this was a game show, with a big star and filmed for the telly. In that context bad things do not “really” happen. They probably assumed that the further they took it, the bigger prize the guy would win at the end. That completely undermines any claim that it was a genuine demonstration of group anonymity. It was unfair on them to make them feel bad about it.


October 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Dilan says:

Incredible show I can’t say what hasn’t already been said about you or this show, other than…you could probably be the devil incarnate.
Also, I can’t seem to find the sountrack by Nick foster and Ken Bolam, anyone know what the end credit song was?


October 29, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Yasmin says:

I was also part of the audience for this show. It was totally incredible. When he got hit by the car I felt terrible! Lesson well learnt Derren, thank you :)


October 29, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Willieballs says:

What are show you really got me 10 out of 10 best yet keep it up, cann’t wait for the next show willieballs


October 29, 2011 at 1:43 pm
stewgreen says:

- didn’t think it worked, lame compared to normal DB. Telly isn’t real life, we know reality TV is mostly fake. So as I watched never with the thought “this is true”, nor “this is false” but rather accepting “I don’t know”. The questions : obvious the “nasty answer” was the most interesting; it wasn’t like the Standford expt, the audience didn’t come up with evil ideas & become a beying evil mob.
Ooh a guy gets run over on live TV maybe yes, maybe no, it didn’t upset me.
“Smash up the TV “. This is the first time with DB I thought “stooge”, et voila the producer had gloves and safety goggles with him..”fix” I say. Could have told him to find his stash of porn or something.
Amazing, lots on Twitter think it’s live.
“Everything you will see for the next 50minutes is unfaked” after 50 ?


October 29, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Flapjack says:

With a couple of minor reservations I thought it was a terrific show. I agree that in the early rounds there was some knowing manipulation going on by emphasising he’d had an affair and was a bit of a practical joker, which led the audience to think “well he’s asking for it”
That raises another question – at what stage did we get to decide the victim ‘deserves’ ritual humiliation. I almost went along with the first three rounds, but was brought up short by the footage of Chantelle being booed on Big Brother. I mean you might not like her, but does that justify the kind of pantomime villain treatment she got? And that was at the mild end of the scale.
It made me think where do I get off playing armchair judge, jury and executioner on people I’ll never meet on TV or in the tabloids who I don’t approve of.


October 29, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Berber Anna says:

I was angry from the first choice. I imagined being randomly confronted by people angry with me about something I didn’t do, and that would be terrifying. What angered and sickened me most was the laughing. Supposedly, judging by the audience’s laughter, it’s funny when someone gets confronted by something embarrassing and scary. And that’s not too contrived, as it appears to be the idea behind MTV shows like Boiling Points and Disaster Date as well. Let’s have someone experience something extremely uncomfortable and laugh away, knowing it’ll all be ‘alright’ in the end when they’re told it was all just a ‘joke’.

Note that the audience only stopped laughing when something irreversible happened, something outside the ‘joke’. Until then, he wasn’t a person, he was just an unfortunate clown.


October 29, 2011 at 2:32 pm
TheJungPretender says:

As much as I enjoyed this, I have a few problems.

I don’t think the audience would ever have thought Derren Brown would have a gameshow.
I don’t think the audience were really sold that the events were live, even with the phone call.
I really don’t think you can control things as elegantly as it appeared or that Chris wouldn’t have thought of Derren at some point over the course of the night.
Control also wasn’t done very well in the studio where at some points it felt like the audience were primed to go for the negative option, such as the first one by ending the clip of Chris on the story about cheating on his girlfriend.
The masks did nothing to introduce anonymity, where the whole experiment was more about conformity and obedience than mob psychology.


October 29, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Scott JC says:

I liked it but theres a few issues I had with this episode.

For starters Derren and crew paint the guy as negatively as possible, they never say anything good about him or show anything good about him. Its only natural you would want to be mean to someone when you’ve been told something bad about him.

In one scene the producer shows us he has cleared his Internet History, whether he did or not is up for debate but after that the audience was probably thinking “this guy is suspicious” and after that how can you help but vote negatively against him? Thats the trap most people would fall for.

I wonder if things would’ve turned out differently if they had said nothing but positive things about him.


October 29, 2011 at 3:32 pm
xxprodynamicsxx says:

wow go onto 4OD and go to the bit where hes run over. watch and listen to a woman say: woman: why are you filming still camera man: because im told to woman: i dont think you should be filming us someone has died camera man: yeah you voted for it derren you are a legend plz make more epic shows :)


October 29, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Kate says:

Those saying it was flawed in that it’s impossible to create real mob mentality with people who know he isn’t really coming to any harm… They voted for him to be kidnapped. As soon as I saw that was an option I knew the show wouldn’t really do it – ‘fake’ or not, being dragged into a van by a masked gang would be pretty traumatising. Yet the audience still thought it would be a laugh.

I must admit I’ve not been much of a fan of Derren for a while but I thought this show was excellent. That stuff really interests me, I loved the film ‘Die Welle’ too.


October 29, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Patrick says:

Absolutely incredible, as usual Mr Brown.

I did laugh a lot at the comment which expressed primary surprise at how much Derren seemed to enjoy the gameshow hosts’s role. Its very true, and he would be very good at it. Seconded for blind date!

Derren, you make the best television in my living memory. Please never give up pushing boundaries and demonstrating how little each and every one of us really knows about how we work and what makes us tick. You are a pioneer, a visionary and the fact that people like you exist and create such works of art is one of the main reasons i feel so happy to be alive.


October 29, 2011 at 4:21 pm
TJ says:

Just caught the show on 4od. Thanks work for making me miss it. I think you are to be congratulated on such a well thought out concept and it’s execution was great. Same for The Assassin which I thought was your best “stunt” loosely termed in a while and I hope to see more great things for the rest of the series. But… You make comparisons to deindividuation in rioting, football hooliganism etc but those are absolute real life occurances. I felt that because it was a “gameshow” it was easier for the audience to go with the crowd and choose the negative options because overall there were no REAL consequences to their choices. Was Kris injured or hurt in anyway? Will there be lasting effects on him? No. But regardless the point is still well made and I enjoyed the show.


October 29, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Stewart says:

Great show! It was disturbing to watch – as intended. It would be interesting to see interviews of the audience members – victims/subjects – immediately after the show and then later when they’d had time to rationalise their actions. This is an excellent series – can’t wait until next Friday.


October 29, 2011 at 4:47 pm
mike says:

I still can’t believe it… how the audience could be so ‘sickened’ by a bit of broken finger nail.


October 29, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Radu C says:

A few thoughts:

1. You got Gaddafi’s army right there!
2. “It’s all in good fun” they said, until the guy got run over.
3. Those guys in the audience will never play a prank on anyone again ever.
4. The question “why do people do bad things” (usually ending in “to me”) has now been answer, at least to your audience: it’s the Mask’s fault (Stanley Ipkiss never hurt anybody).

People tend to forget the bad things that can come out of so called “fun”. As they say, “hindsight is always 20/20″.


October 29, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Chris Pt. says:

My dear friends, regardless whether “Kris” deserved any of the the treatment received, the bottom line is shocking. Looking back at the program, we see the gradual process of not only deindividuation of the audience, but a total lack of morals and a slow social regression. The last 15 minutes proved very dramatic, with the audience spurting out the most distressful of commands, behaving like apes. I would bet good money that none of the audience would behave in such a manner if given the same choices, but this time had to answer individually and non-anonymously.


October 29, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Mike says:

OK Chris was definitely in on it, the baseball bat and the TV was set up, someone in the audience was a stooge shouting for it to be smashed up, how else did they get him a new TV so fast? How can everyone else in the bar and shop hear what Derren is saying but not Chris? Very convenient that he had wiped his internet history too… Chris was a good actor, however his work colleague was terrible!

All that said, it did not spoil my enjoyment of the show as it was the audience who were being controlled not Chris, so it doesn’t really matter whether he was in on it or not. I thought the final 10 minutes was some of the best TV I have seen!! And it was great to see him do something that was all psychology without and magic tricks. How does he keep coming up with these ideas?? Very Clever!


October 29, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Savvy says:

Thank you Darren, for what you have done in the 2 experiments.. They are real eye openers..
I really hope and wish people would change their thinking and behave better in the future.


October 29, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Iain D says:

I though last night’s show was flawed. The audience knew deep down they were on a game show and that any negative paths the subject took would never result in a permanent consequence.


October 29, 2011 at 6:19 pm
alan says:

I notice a number of comments requesting access to the data. The pattern of sequential voting relating to each individual could be informative. Though if permitted, might it reveal that we’re the experiment? Beings beginning to questioning their own perceptions.
In which case the final vote might have been:
a) Continued existence.
b) The alternative.


October 29, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Vasilis A. says:

I just think that this was a brilliant show. Here are some observations…
1. Derren himself was all playful and smiling, even when the most extreme options were presented, creating a “hey what the hell, it’s just a game after all!” atmosphere and thus pushing the audience to make the unpleasant choice easier.
2. About the TV thing… Yes the bat and the goggles suggest that this might be staged but think about it… You just place a bat next to a tv set and show it to a “charged” audience, it’s a matter of time until someone shouts “smash the damn thing!”. Then you just have a new set ready for replacement.
(to be continued…)


October 29, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Thistooshallpass says:

Absolutely blown away by the “The Game show ”. I’ve been moaning and cringing for years over the amount of so called ‘entertainment shows’ which take so much pleasure from humiliating and pushing to breaking point someone who has agreed to go on their show. I find it so repellent but most people tell me that “they deserve it” which just leaves me cold and disillusioned by the whole human race. Given the right circumstances we can all ‘act out’ in a cruel and evil way but bloody hell do we need to see it every night of the week on TV.
It must have taken a lot of courage to make this show, so, well done everyone who took part (especially the audience) I’ve always thought that for a gay guy Derren you certainly do have ‘balls’ proving ‘yet again’ that not all gays are sissies and not all sissies are gay xx


October 29, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Vasilis A. says:

3. About the browser history… Actually I was surprised that a bunch of technicians (and the host of course) didn’t think of the most obvious reason… Guys, not everyone uses Internet Explorer! Chris might be just using another browser, it’s that simple.
4. The whole point of this show was not Chris. It was the realization that a bunch of average people are capable of doing evil things “just for fun”, but in order to ensure that we would be brought to this powerful finale, at least that is my opinion, one has to be sure of only one thing… Voting. So I am not sure wether these people actually voted (as a whole) in favor of B outcomes, or the voting results were just… well… pretty staged, but I am sure of one thing, either way it was all worth it in the end.


October 29, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Robert Thompson says:

U’ve been my idol for 7 years now, i went to see u in your new tour ‘Svengali’ i hav all your dvd’s and almost all your books. And just when i thought nothing could get any better, u pull of a spectacular show. U are amazing and a fine actor :D


October 29, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Lauren says:

To all you who are so concerned for the psychological well-fair of Chris that you are rejoicing in the horror and guilt experienced by all the individual audience members I think you may need to reflect on your own use of group identity! The audience members are arguably bigger victims of this whole event than Chris, although the complicity of his ‘friends’ might prove hard for him to deal with. If this isn’t a set up I cannot see how or why anyone would go ahead with this program, It hasn’t demonstrated anything we didn’t already know and is so full of holes it could never be used to add to the body of evidence that already exists on obedience and shared responsibility. I wonder if the producers are ‘sharing responsibility’ for the psychological torment of their victims.


October 29, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Elise says:

Brilliant! Loved it. I actually liked it more than The Assassin. Lots of fun and shocking stuff. “Fantastic arse” HAHAHAHA! You naughty man, lol. xxxxxxxxxx Can’t get enough of you, roll on next Friday! ; )


October 29, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Juliet, Aged 14 says:

Wow, I’m so glad I managed to catch it on 4od just now, that really was one of the most thought-provoking entertainment programs I have ever seen. While watching it, I was thinking to myself what decision I would have made for each of the dilemmas, and I can honestly say, I wouldn’t have chosen the “nasty” option for any after the first couple. I do not doubt that what happened was genuine up until the kidnapping, Deren Brown is so intelligent, he doesn’t need staging. For those of you saying that the audience will be scarred, ultimately, they were making the decisions, in a crowd with a mask on or not, it really shows how we have lost touch with our morals. It really needed the shock-factor of Chris getting hit by a car to really make people question their behavior, continued…


October 29, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Juliet, Aged 14 says:

…I was honestly slightly disgusted at how over the top the crowd acted about something as tiny as a fingernail and how people were cheering as somebody’s TV was getting smashed up. But I actually couldn’t believe it when they were willing to let someone believe they were going to be fired or they were going to be kidnapped and feel as if they were potentially going to die. An extremely well thought out stunt, I urge anyone who missed it to watch it now: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/derren-brown-the-experiments/4od


October 29, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Joyce says:

My first & foremost concern was about Chris. After having the kind of night that he had & coming home to a letter I wondered what was his thoughts. I also wonder what are his thoughts now after watching the show & seeing how the audience reactions. I’m making assumptions that Chris has watched the show. As for the comments that people had about the TV I, for one, was very concerned when they had keys to his place my first thought was “Oh lord let them leave the tv alone”. I also was shocked when the crowd chose the kidnapped since Chris did have some training & that might kick in. However I was shock when he was hit I just thought that some of the production crew would come out as they had in The Heist when Chris had gotten away. I hope there is a follow up & I look forward to Friday.


October 29, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Will says:

I have to say that I absolutely loved this show, and it probably ranks among my favourite Derren Brown shows so far. It was really eye opening, and fascinating to watch how the crowd became more and more rowdy and wanting a negative outcome. The one thing that really sent shivers down my spine was the bit in the bedroom where people suddenly started shouting to trash the bedroom and smash the TV. It was utterly interesting to watch, and although I guessed the twist at the end, I thought the cleverness of the 50 minutes ending 3 minutes ago was genius.
Also I think that the opening was one of your best show openings for a long time, and would like to see more magic based openings like this in your future shows


October 30, 2011 at 1:47 am
Andy says:

Though I enjoyed the program, I would propose that there was more than deindividuation going on. Having painted the target in a negative light, having the host of the game appear fine with the choices made, placing it in a game environment where the audience knows that the choices don’t have “real” effects (e.g., they knew he wasn’t really being arrested), feelings of consistency (as in, “Well, I chose the bad option the last three times, I can’t switch to good now), among other variables. The choices given were not purely “good” vs. “bad,” but instead, the bad option always lent itself to more action than the good (getting some money vs. getting kidnapped!?) All the shouting to bash his TV was chilling, though.

I’m curious if the same would happen without the masks. I expect it would.


October 30, 2011 at 2:14 am
vaughn says:

Having been an avid follower of DB I was a little disappointed in myself for being taken in & letting out an “Oh shit! !” when the stuntman tumbled across the bonnet of the car, then immediately realised I had been duped [again]. I concur with the view that the audience was likely to pick the option that would be “entertaining” regardless of the jeopardy involved .It was meant to be a gameshow so Im not convinced that the show backed up any theory about “mob mentality” but as a piece of entertainment [ which also sends me delving around t`internet to try & find out how he did it ] DBs shows are top notch IMHO. Looking forward to the next one.


October 30, 2011 at 6:51 am

I just thought I would say how wonderful (and disturbing) I found The Gameshow.

I also thought that the ideas which Derren explored might be able to tell us more about uncomfortable behaviour which we see right now in our society. I wrote this small post on ‘deinviduation’ and attitudes that people have towards benefit claimants if anyone is interested to read: http://tinyurl.com/69q6mh9


October 30, 2011 at 8:07 am
b nice says:

Thumbs up. Best DB show since the lottery prediction x


October 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Matt says:

I enjoyed the show, though I felt like I’d have preferred it to have been edited with some other bits and pieces, rather than just watching the gameshow. I guess it was supposed to ramp up the tension but I did find it a little laboured. I agree that it felt like there were things in place which encouraged the audience to pick the negative options but I think that’s fairly unavoidable to do the experiment on this scale.

Was worth it for the spontaneous crowd-jeering when they got to the bedroom – found that fairly shocking.

Didn’t realise until the end we were supposed to buy into Chris being real. I’d assumed he was an actor throughout. So that kinda spoiled the ‘twist’! Great stuff though, looking forward to the next two…


October 30, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Richard in Rochdale says:

Just watch it this morning even though could see what was happening & could predict it will only take somthing going to far before it will stop can’t believe how sick we can be & the ending I was in tears .well done Derren


October 30, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Irish Mum says:

Enthralled. Laughed along with the crowd at the start but backed off as things got heavy and nasty. Made a point of showing the program to my two sons in the hope that it will stick in their minds if they ever find themselves tempted to join in such behavior at some point, a deterrent hopefully. The reaction of the audience at the end said it all, the enormity and realization of what they had done was written all over their faces. I did find it interesting that some people put the masks back on, were they trying to hide or what?????


October 30, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Caron says:

Not everyone is swayed by a group. Bit disappointed we did not hear the percentages of the vote.


October 31, 2011 at 12:46 am

i just watched this and was abit shocked when they broke into his house and smashed his xbox up i wuda gone mad cus of all my stuff saved on there and wudnt care if it was tv bloke i wuda sewd him till the end and then seeing him get hit by a car that was serious children may have been watching and would be disturbed by that i rang my mates straight away can any 1 tell us weither it was real or not sum 1 just told me it was a stunt man but how cud that av been a stunt man all day ??


October 31, 2011 at 12:49 am
akim says:

At the start he says everything is absolutely “genuine and unfate” I dont know if it was ment to sound like unfake


October 31, 2011 at 1:25 am
Lauren says:

Wow, I tuned in half way through cause i didnt realise it was on and I was really shocked when they guy got hit by the car, so much so that my boyfriend recieved a text saying “OMG SOMEONE GOT RUN OVER ON DERREN BROWN!” When I started watching and Derren was explaining what had been going on I was thinking, “Poor guys going to have a mental break down.”

Can’t wait to see the guilt trip, I would not like to be on the end of one of Derrens tricks lol, very impressionable and open minded and fragile lol. Although I was able to move my legs last week… maybe I’m not as easy to manipulate as i think :D


October 31, 2011 at 1:56 am
Katie says:

I’m in complete disbelief.
Not at the show but at all you people commenting on how amazing Derren Brown is.

Anybody with even an ounce of intelligence could see it was completely set up, with the exception of the audience.

1 question for all you people that are convinced this is real.

We see Kris being dropped at his flat, and after all is revealed to the audience we are told that what actually happened was that he went straight into the flat.
There is a new TV waiting.

While the “producer” is in the room its an audience member who shouts to break the tv so it wasnt planned.

Where did they get a brand new tv from at night and in about 5 minutes???

And also, Kris’ “collegue” was one of the worse actresses ive ever seen.


October 31, 2011 at 11:58 am
cat says:

While I agree that the entire thing could POTENTIALLY have been a set up start to finish, if you’d watched any of Derren’s other stuff, you’d know that he could have easily lead the audience into suggesting the producer smash up the telly by subliminal means. He showed a man in the start (the A/B imaginary coin flipping) and that was all done by Derren slipping subtle things into the conversations and his body language to make sure the guy made the right decisions. He vets his audiences and participants to make sure they are impressionable before any filming begins. I don’t feel that the apparent “spontaneous” shout out from an audience member alone dis proves the credibility of the show. Also, did you ever consider the fact that he could have just as easily planted an actor in the studio?


October 31, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Hannah says:

First let me make clear that I love derren brown and his shows. But i’m currently studying a masters and some recent research about ethics has made me question the ethics of this particular episode. I dont understand how it can be ethically right to have put that poor man under such stress and trauma (through the events which his was put through) without having his consent first and without him being aware that the events were not real and that he was being filmed. Surely participant consent is needed? The effects of those events on him needed to be considered. The same stands for the audience, surely it is again ethically wrong to make them believe they are particpating in a gameshow, when they are really the subjects of an experiment. Does anyone know how/who i can ask about this please?


October 31, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Thomas Smith says:

Derren,

First of all, what a great show! It made me take a look at decisions I’ve made in the past and perhaps might make me behave a little better in the future – and I’m sure I’m not alone.

Second, I’m sorry if someone’s already asked, but I’m curious about these “fake police”. Are they real policemen, or former policemen, or actors who have never been policemen? And isn’t it usually illegal to impersonate a policeman? How do you get away with it?

Keep up the good work!


October 31, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Shamita says:

Even if the actors were among the audience, shouldn’t people use their own concious to vote but not follow others? This show was to prove how easily we stop thinking for ourselves but when we are in a certain group we just follow the majority mostly.

I agree that it wasn’t quite fair – because it was a game show, so they think it’s harmless and just because of tv it can’t be bad for a long distance. However you can’t deny that they wanted bad things to happen to him.

Plus, Chris was a negative character. He cheated and was a lad, plus not honest (Internet History) – that helped the audience to voted bad. Would they still vote bad if that would be a hardworking, kind and nice women instead of Chris?


November 1, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Berber Anna says:

Hannah: I don’t know who you should ask about the legalities and ethics of these things, but do keep in mind that ‘prank shows’ like MTV’s Boiling Points and Disaster Date essentially do the same thing — they put people in very uncomfortable situations to see how they’ll react (and pay them money if they keep their cool). And those shows don’t even have the redeeming value of being an experiment about crowd psychology, they just do it because apparently, some people like to watch others be miserable.


November 1, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Berber Anna says:

Katie: Two possible options, probably connected.

A) When Kris’s colleague made the call, the options were ‘tell him he’s fired’ and ‘tell him you’re giving him a TV’. The TV could be the one connected to that option.

B) There was a bat placed conveniently near the television (probably by the co-conspiring girlfriend). When the producer picked that up, he moved towards the television, setting the crowd up to think of smashing it. If nobody in the audience responded (although I believe they probably did), all you’d need was for one of the studio workers to cry out ‘smash it’ and see who picked it up — those masks would restrict people’s view enough for them not to notice it wasn’t one of them who said it.


November 1, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Liam says:

In the bar when the barman is berrating Kris for not paying his bill, he is really quite adament he is in the right and is taking no excuses whatsoever. Cut bck to Derren who talks for 30 seconds then bck to the bar for the Michelle Bass stunt.The barman is away. What happened there then?After all the fuss he made did he just turn round and say “ill let you off this time” ….. In the short space of time from the camera leaving the barman asking for the money and going back to them for the Michelle thing, Kris and his friends are talking away normally as if nothing happened.If this had been real either the barman would still be there or Kris would be sitting complaining about it to his friends and trying to get the attention of the waiter he paid…why didnt he ask to speak to who he paid?


November 2, 2011 at 3:20 am
Chrisdore says:

It doesn’t matter if it was actors or not! The friend from work didn’t seem real and it’s possible that Chris was acting but why would they need to put actors in there? There’s nothing he would do differently if he was an actor. And of course they’d create the good outcomes and film it all even if they didn’t use it it’s channel 4 think of how many pilots are made that never get shown.

The point of this isn’t to get the audience to vote or give someone a good or a crap night, the point is to educate viewers on mob mentality and the outcomes. And I’m sure it worked.


November 2, 2011 at 10:11 am
Tanya says:

I am a massive fan of Derren Brown & thought this show was absolutely awesome. If you think about it, you can really relate to it.. it’s like a mix of peer presser & the mob mentality he was talking about. The first options start quite ‘soft’, i.e. no harm coming to him, just a bit of a laugh right? People who think “oh, I don’t like this, I want something nice to happen to him” can often be swayed by someone saying “but no harm will come to him, it’s just a bit of a laugh!” so they pick the nasty option. Then, as the nasty option’s get increasingly worse, they have lost their identity & are in full swing of the mob mentality. Shouting for someone to smash up their posessions & the like, & then the final option, wanting him to get kidnapped & took to a disused warehouse???


November 2, 2011 at 10:18 am
Tanya says:

Actually LAUGHING OUT LOUD as he got chased down a street???? That, ladies & gentleman, is mob mentality at it’s ‘finest’. It doesn’t matter if Derren told them things about Chris to, how you say, sway their opinion, they are all individuals & should KNOW the difference between right & wrong. That, I think, was the whole point of the program. Being part of a crowd, however much you deny it, DOES change your perspective of right & wrong, because you will always have that one person saying “it’s only a laugh!!” As someone said earlier, an extreme example of this is the KKK. I’m sure we have all been part of the mob mentality at one part of our lives, whether through peer pressure or not, & all of us will have had varying levels of extremist behaviour.


November 3, 2011 at 9:33 pm
BlokeyMan says:

Great show – Milgrim and Zimbardo spring to mind. If I were in the audience, I’d have been voting for positive choices just to be a smartarse. I’m not sure but i think I saw a couple of grins at the end – audience members who weren’t taken in?

It was mentioned that it was “convenient” that Chis had deleted his internet history – this isn’t as suspicious as you may think. Some browsers have high default privacy settings (e.g. Firefox), so if you use them “out of the box” then you’ll have no internet history. When I set up computers for friends, that’s how I set them up.

I’m not saying he wasn’t an actor, just that his browser settings aren’t evidence or an indication of him hiding anything. Just to amplify the point – I see other commenters have already raised this issue.


November 4, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Graham Lowell says:

I thought the show made the point it set out to, about how easy it is for people to lost their morality in a mob, very well. I see David Aaronovtich referred to it in a Times Opinion column.
But what I found really frightening was how good Derren Brown is as a gameshow host. If he ever loses all sense of morality himself we may have the next Michael Barrymore…


November 6, 2011 at 11:13 am
Kim says:

Why were there so many “p” words? Just a curious diversion? Panty liners and peas?


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