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THE ASSASSIN: TONIGHT AT 9PM CH4

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Posted by Derren Brown October 21, 2011 at 5:06 pm

I have been asked by those who ask such things to remind you that tonight on C4, 9pm is the first episode of my new series, Derren Brown: The Experiments.
We kick off with ‘The Assassin’. Here are some teeny teaser clips of tonight’s show which you may or may not enjoy.

If you like a little comment, then do feel free to comment throughout and after the show here on this blog.

What larks. Please enjoy the show.

COMMENTS
October 21, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Ming says:

Ming awaits the result of this ‘experiment’ with unmitigated relish


October 21, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Pinkoddy says:

I feel brave now but can only see half the video box and it just goes black when I press all 3. Now need to watch the show to see if I’m part of the magic or whether my iPhone is just useless πŸ˜‰


October 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm
James says:

I’m really looking forward to this series, should be very interesting.


October 21, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Stephen says:

So tonight we’ll find out which of the Chuckle Brothers _actually_ dies! I can’t wait!


October 21, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Ben says:

Looks good, slightly worrying if it is possible… But still..


October 21, 2011 at 5:16 pm

Oooooh……. A delicious hour of TV awaits tonight me thinks. πŸ˜‰

LC x


October 21, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Mathijs van Nimwegen says:

I will be watching! πŸ˜€
*pumped*


October 21, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Niels says:

Is there an online live stream for the channel? I want to watch it but Dutch TV doesn’t offer the channel πŸ™ Help is appricated :_


October 21, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Elise says:

Excited!!!!!!! Playstation is being switched off at 9!!! No arguements! The TV is mine πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ Mwahahaha! Lights out, nice huge mug of tea and some biscuits. Heehee.


October 21, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Mystery says:

I know this is going to be my favourite show to date, and not seen it yet!


October 21, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Ben A says:

How can United States views watch?


October 21, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Wreltch says:

Niels, you could try this link … http://www.tvcatchup.com/watch.html?c=4


October 21, 2011 at 6:39 pm
spiderabc1 says:

Urge to watch these clips. Damn temptation. I’m also c excited about tonight and the following shows (and anything Derren does in view of his fans : )


October 21, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Jenifer says:

Looks brilliant. Can’t wait. πŸ˜€


October 21, 2011 at 8:08 pm

Derren is trending on twitter guys! Lets get #theexperiments trending too! For Coops πŸ˜‰


October 21, 2011 at 8:10 pm
chaz says:

looks awsomezzzzzzzzz πŸ˜€


October 21, 2011 at 9:30 pm
ShayDog says:

I reckon the celebrity is Stephen Fry…


October 21, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Don says:

Stephen Fry? Noooo.


October 21, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Matt says:

No Bridget Fonda? Boooooo.


October 21, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Kelly S says:

That was amazing, I would never have believed that anyone could be programmed like that had I nnot seen it with my own eyes! I was fascinated that no one in the audience ran or tryed to help Stephen, we need a programme on that Derren and I would love to be part of it.


October 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Stephen says:

Disturbingly Awesome, one of your most intriguing shows.


October 21, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Marco says:

I do like Derren’s shows , no doubt about it.

Hypnosis is one of the subjects that are captivating, however this first program wasn’t that interesting (obviously in my personal opinion).

Hopefully the series will bring us more.

Thank you all for reading and you Derren for the show,

Regards,

Marco


October 21, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Laurence says:

Stunning…possibly the best show I’ve ever watched.


October 21, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Lolly says:

Fantastic show! I was gripped!! Well done Derren! x


October 21, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Mum says:

Please can you help our daughter.


October 21, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Mum says:

Thank you,7


October 21, 2011 at 10:11 pm
andy says:

Just watched your latest show…. When you showed Chris what he had done to Steven fry on the tv screen Howcome he didn’t react to seeing the pokadot dress the woman was wearing?


October 21, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Chris milne says:

Just watched this and omg.. Scared the sh!t out of me .. It wasn’t so much the shooting but the fact that he had no recollection of his actions .
Don’t for one min believe derren is the only person in the world that is capable of doing this !
This is war without morals …
Anything is possible .. Self preservation did not exist in this guys head….scary
On the flip side though …derren you can have whatever you what and get other people to do it for you and they would have no recollection of doing it…. Excellent


October 21, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Elise says:

Awesome as usual! πŸ˜€ Can’t wait to see the rest. I had peace and quiet and my tea and biccies, lol. Amazing how that can actually be done. Aaaand……you were gorgeous….as usual πŸ™‚


October 21, 2011 at 10:18 pm

Oh wow Derren, thoroughly enjoyable hour of TV which I want to get back again & again.
I loved watching the whole process of getting Chris through to achieving the actual assassination, really found it fascinating. And if I’m honest, a tad scary.

Am annoyed with myself at being invited to the Stephen Fry ‘talk’ to which I didn’t attend. Maybe if I’d known what the whole thing was I may have made sure I’d been part of it! Haha….ah well, no matter…..

Thank you once again for putting together a wonderfully enjoyable show and if anything has whetted my appetite even more for the ones to come. πŸ™‚

LC x


October 21, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Shaun Banks says:

Great show Derren I was seriously impressed. I thought it would be possible and you clearly proved that. It does raise a number of questions though, including how compliant does the subject have to be for this type of hypnosis to work and how much compliance makes the subject responsible for their actions.

What worries me most about this experiment though is what impact will this have on the person who did it. We all like to feel confident that we are in control that fundementally were are good and to have that proven otherwise in such a shocking way could leave a very long last effect. I hope not, but if this has never been done before then surely only time well tell, which does not sound much of a certainty to me – was this experiment bordering on the irresponsible?


October 21, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Dedebo says:

I didn’t notice the normal Derren Brown announcement “no stooges or plants were used”
Have assume then that plants were used.


October 21, 2011 at 10:23 pm

Interesting programme – are you campaigning on behalf of Sirhan Sirhan – the man who assassinated Bobby Kennedy?


October 21, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Punkikin says:

Brilliant and scary, and well done to The Fry for supporting the experiment. Riveting


October 21, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Karen Rose says:

Bloody brilliant. I don’t ever want to upset this man, he could be dangerous!! Went to the inigma tour in crawley, I got up on stage, totally amazed!!!!


October 21, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Pete Buffery says:

Derren, fascinating and groundbraking as I’ve come to expect. Is it possible that you could use your skills to help Sirhan Sirhan to remember his potentially induced amnesia phases?


October 21, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Chris says:

Kudos on the last scene of the show though with the pattern and ringtone… that did make me smile.


October 21, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Dedebo says:

πŸ˜‰ fair enough


October 21, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Dan says:

Brilliant as usual – doubt it’s a stooge as mentioned above. Really interested in why Sirhan Sirhan was mentioned as this open up a can of worms surely. Because of that, I think it’s real. Of course it’s primarily entertainment, but why I love derren et als work is that there is always an important message, point or philosophical note. Will be a sad day when he hangs his hat.


October 21, 2011 at 11:02 pm
bubbles says:

@ andy: I think it was more the handkerchief in the woman’s hair that he reacted to rather than the dress. There was also no ringtone (or instructions) in the final scene.


October 21, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Ange Cooper says:

Already tweeted: As a Psychologist, watching Chris’s reaction 2 seeing himself ‘kill’ SF felt v uncomfortable, u r at least 1 foot in a v unethical place. You are either very good @ reconciling your inner turmoil about this or paid enough to not care, you have no idea what the long term impact might be & I wonder how/if this is even considered?


October 21, 2011 at 11:13 pm
bobby J. says:

Wow! A year ago, after the ‘Hero at 30,000 feet’ I asked for a replication of the RFK assassination… And if I remember correctly, another to do with EMDR healing. A whole year later, I’m getting a text from a friend about the show. Bravo, maestro, bravo. I feel like I’m in ‘The Twilight Zone’.

The internet has been incredible, from the posting of the classic mind-blowing Philip K. Dick like short story ‘The Yellow Pill’ (1958) by the distinguished Ellen Datlow on the reprint section of Sci-Fiction, and not to a replica of one of the three major assassinations of the ’60s.

Couldn’t find the original posting!

Blogs are terrific tools.

Thank you.
– best regards, Bobby.


October 21, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Doug says:

I smell a rat. You’d think at least one person at that talk would have said “Oh, by the way, funny thing happened at the theatre tonight. Stephen Fry got shot three times in the chest, and then Derren Brown showed up.” Why hadn’t we heard about it before tonight?

Also, if (and this is a very big if) such programming were possible, why aren’t more people doing it? If it’s within Channel 4’s resources, it’s surely within the power of any government, multinational corporation, and mafia syndicate on the face of the earth. And why aren’t more accused murderers using it as a defence?

Then again, maybe I just killed someone while writing this post. Who’s to know? Either way, very good telly. Well done!


October 21, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Tim Baber says:

Derren mentioned MK Ultra. That was the exotic one, but I am more scared by Monarch Programming, That is based on trauma as the key to splitting off a conscious alternative sort of person. Even Mengele was implicated in that (Google “How tall was Mengele?” These spy types studied magicians and hypnotists and worse people for the tricks they revealed. Yet all this talk on assassins is for all the necessity of it wed in the past and Monarch Programming (a loose term for a big subject) seems to have left all of this in the stone age if you believe what you can read by googling “sneeze” and NSA…which is how I found this bit of the future.


October 21, 2011 at 11:28 pm
bobby J. says:

PS: those who want to see where the seeds of this story originate, should check out;

‘JFK and the Unspeakable’ by James Douglass and…
‘LBJ: Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination’ – Phillip Nelson

plus the underground 6 part, public domain ‘Evidence of Revision’ which can be watched or torrent downloaded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gBxMJFQd04

And here’s an article on the this famous underground cult classic.

http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/evidenceofrevision.html

It’s a brilliant piece of critical thinking.

As Henry Ford once said, “History is bunk”.

-bobby


October 21, 2011 at 11:59 pm
Dominic T says:

I’m honestly a bit sceptical about this. Derren is clearly not a man without imagination. Surely if he possesses the sort of power of suggestion he states, as well as a high level of imagination, he’s wasting his amazing talents proving how amazing he is. At a guess there is some deception going on, possibly based on the audience and participant having a different idea of the intention of the questions at the end.


October 22, 2011 at 12:20 am
Thistooshallpass says:

We really enjoyed the programme Derren. The whole Ò€œwas it all real or was it fakeÒ€ debate will now erupt and many hours of theories and discussions will take place….I just love it. That really is Γ’β‚¬Λœthe very best thingÒ€ℒ about your work Derren, everyone has a different view of what they saw (or didnÒ€ℒt see) and they are convinced theyÒ€ℒre right. Some of my friends have already phoned to ask if I thought it was real or not, some believe some donÒ€ℒt lol Bless you for keeping us entertained xx


October 22, 2011 at 12:50 am
Lourdes says:

TRULY SCARY !!! AND I’M NOW MORE THAN NEVER ASKING: WHO ARE WE INDEED …??? JUST MERE SOPHISTICATED ROBOTS ???…I US BEING BIOLOGICAL COMPUTERS …


October 22, 2011 at 2:59 am
Graham says:

Great telly, but I have to remain sceptical.
There are still some fundamental questions about the validity of hypnosis, and as others have said if Channel 4 can do this why haven’t governments?
But if I were bothered by plot holes I’d have stopped watching Derren a while back. He’s a showman who makes great TV. Keep it up DB.


October 22, 2011 at 3:00 am
Clarady says:

He didn’t seem very happy about it at the end but he did agree to take part in the show and everyone knows that this show can have a wicked twist.. well everyone who’s watched the previous ones and i dont see why you would volunteer if you hadn’t done your research!


October 22, 2011 at 7:49 am

Thank you, Derren for another great show last night which had me on the edge of my seat
Keep up the fab work, and i’ll try and get to see you in Svengali next year, if it is coming
to Birmingham again.

John W.


October 22, 2011 at 7:59 am

I do question why Sirhan Sirhan is still locked up after all thus time. Also why he has had his 14th parole attempt rejected.

then however if you think about it “MK-ULTRA” was supposed to be a “top secret” mind programming technique and I suppose, that if they let him out of jail, then it would be like the American authorities admitting that he had been programmed to kill Bobby Kennedy.

Derren, Perhaps your demonstration, or parts of it might be used at his Sirhan Sirhan’s 15th prole attempt. If what you did was totally genuine with little or no trickery involved then why would the authorities NOT take any notice of your work, i getting Sirhan Sirhan released.


October 22, 2011 at 8:29 am
Rosic says:

Gripping stuff Derren and co. – what a performance! Is Chris really the kind of guy who, when allegedly not under someone’s control, would willingly take hold of a case with a loaded gun in it and carry it into a room full of people?


October 22, 2011 at 8:42 am
Shaun Banks says:

I really hope this whole thing was a setup as I still feel very uncomfortable about the long term effects on the young man who was used as a guinea pig. I am sure the results of such an experiment are fascinating and easy to justify for the academic world and for anyone seeking their piers approval and so long as there are no long term lasting effects for the young man involved you all got away with it…..if not??????

To Quote Geoff Goldblum “Just because you could, doesn’t mean you should”


October 22, 2011 at 9:16 am
Chris W says:

Riveting TV and some very serious conclusions to be drawn. Although most of the MK Ultra files were deliberately destroyed in the 1970s, enough documentation and victims’ testimony remains to be sure that the CIA did carry out these kinds of mind control experiments and very probably used hypnotised victims to carry out real operations. It’s clear from the programme that Derren’s team has done extensive research on the methods used by the CIA, although his feat is far more impressive because he wasn’t able to use some of the more unethical techniques, like sleep deprivation and so on.

The film, ‘Evidence of Revision’, referred to just above (by bobby J) is definitely required viewing, comprised entirely of rare archive material.


October 22, 2011 at 10:24 am
Cat says:

Wow, last night’s Assassin episode was freaking awesome! Kind of scary too though… πŸ˜€


October 22, 2011 at 10:35 am
lrjtucker says:

Loved it. Hope it’s okay to post a favourable review πŸ™‚

http://tvpixie.com/tv-news/2011/10/22/derren-brown-experiments-assassin-moulding-murderer


October 22, 2011 at 11:13 am
Jacqueline says:

I enjoyed the show, although not entirely convinced. DB has mentioned previously that people under the influence of hypnosis could not perform something that was against their moral code, and I assume murder is one of them. Surely when faced with the proposition, either suggested or not, the individuals innate sense of right and wrong would prevent the action, unless of course they already had an inclination to murder – I dunno. I enjoyed the process but was wondering why the audience, having no prior knowledge, didn’t react to the shooting, bizarre, maybe they did have prior knowledge, but it left it a little flat. Top marks for Stephens dramatic death scene, very convincing πŸ™‚ All in all a good nights viewing, but was hoping the end would have been more random, peeps screaming etc πŸ™‚


October 22, 2011 at 11:56 am
Liz says:

Doug – I was at the Stephen Fry talk where it all happened and we were asked by Derren not to say anything whatsoever – Not to anyone!! It would have obviously spoilt the programme if it got out so out of respect for the much respected Derren Brown we all kept stuum. And Bubbles – yes there was a ringtone. You could hear it loud and clear. There were no stooges. I am a genuine member of the public as was everbody else in the audience.
Fantastic show as always Derren. Am always amazed at what you can come up with


October 22, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Joey McGee says:

Derren that was the most fun I’ve had watching TV in as long as I can remember. It’s everything I love about science, skepticism and magic. You worked very hard and your crew must have been very proud. The conspiratorial aspect was completely unexpected and really will have ’em talking for a long time! Showed them boffins up too haha… Not possible eh? XD

Over at Randi’s forum we’re discussing the new series and I think it will be a heated and interesting discussion as these killer shows keep coming. I invite everyone to join us http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=222052


October 22, 2011 at 12:07 pm

@Kelly S – One of my friends was there and he went to help Stephen, it was cut out for the TV edit. (I don’t know if someone’s already said this so sorry if someone did πŸ™‚ )


October 22, 2011 at 1:14 pm
bubbles says:

@Liz: Thanks for your post and well done for keeping a secret! I meant there was no ringtone when Derren and Stephen were showing Chris what he did earlier.


October 22, 2011 at 1:15 pm
bubbles says:

(As someone asked why didn’t he react to polka dot dress in that scene).


October 22, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Rhian says:

Loved loved loved the show last night Derren. I am one of many unable to attend the Stephen Fry talk at such short notice but it was lovely to be invited nonetheless. Well done to all involved. It has created more questions than answers of course! πŸ™‚ Hope to see you soon x


October 22, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Martyn hodder says:

Watched the show last night and it was brilliant as always. You never stop amazing me. I’ve watched all your show and everyone is as good as the last. Keep it up Derren.


October 22, 2011 at 2:57 pm
PeterT says:

Great show but there seemed to be some inconsistencies with the hand gun. in some camera shots at the range the “assassin” uses ear protectors when firing but in others he did not. I don’t believe firing this kind of weapon without ear protection would be allowed. Also when the “assassination” takes place, the handgun is discharged right next to the woman in the spotty dresses ear. Even blanks would be a problem in this scenario.


October 22, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Heidi says:

This show is really interesting. I love getting into the minds of people and watching human behaviour. Very well done.


October 22, 2011 at 3:23 pm
David Changes says:

Well he had me there for a few minutes. As a hypnotist myself, I have often told people that they will not break their own ethical code under hypnosis. Not even a little bit, let alone assassinations.

And I was gobsmacked by this.

Then I sussed how I could achieve the same effect. And I am certainly not going to spoil the fun by explaining. I’m not even going to give a clue because Derren already has. To the best of my understanding, everything that was shown was completely genuine.

Delightful, elegant work!


October 22, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Penny says:

Brilliant show! I think that most of us generally behave like sheep so shouldn’t be surprised that Derren was able to do this. In fact the history of the world is full of examples of people killing and torturing because someone else suggested that they do it. But you are truly gifted Derren-and I just bought 2 tickets to your show in Dublin-hope I made this decision independently.


October 22, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Kelly S says:

@Honor Louise I did wonder why no one did anything, it restores my faith in humanity that your friend did try to help.


October 22, 2011 at 3:39 pm
N. says:

I’m sure the ;atest episode of the current series has conspiracy theorists going crazy. I personally enjoyed the scenarios and situation faced and the effects they do have. It does show that human behaviour can be manipulated and prove those wrong who believe that such things cannot exist.

Can’t wait for more. πŸ™‚


October 22, 2011 at 4:25 pm
panda says:

After seeing The Heist I had since wondered about suggesting if a programme could be made testing the same theory with suicide bombers and assassinations but thought it would seem a bit strange to show that sort of interest. Glad someone else is as intrigued by these type of questions.

Have you thought about another speicies other than the human kind to test your psychological skills on, make great tv.


October 22, 2011 at 5:03 pm
thejungpretender says:

Not that big a stretch for this to be authentic. Cant get my head round handing him a gun before like it wasn’t weird. Most amazing thing is how it could be kept a secret by the audience.


October 22, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Jeremy says:

Why wasn’t there a second polygraph after the shooting? Or was there except the results weren’t good enough to show on the program?


October 22, 2011 at 6:22 pm
JPYORKJP says:

I have no doubt that what Derren did for TV could be done for real. After all, its not far removed from normal military training really… Check out this clip of some British Army bayonet training and tell me its not at all ‘hypnotic based’… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJBJrhUv-zA


October 22, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Callie says:

Adored the show, as always. As a Clinical Hypnotherapist you’ve just made my job that little bit harder, but I’m going to assume there was some shennanigans involved and will stick to my “you can’t be hypnotised to do anything you wouldn’t otherwise do” line. Well, until I read all the details of the experiment in a peer-reviewed journal, that is :-). Looking forward to the next one!


October 22, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Alan says:

Brilliant programme!

I’d love to watch it again but can’t find it repeated on sky πŸ™

Is it repeated? If so where and when.

Thank you
Alan

Msg from Abeo: Details of Repeat showings are listed here: http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/nhvyd/the-experiments-derren-brown-the-assassin


October 22, 2011 at 6:51 pm
David says:

Where did that pesky bald patch go… I know you say your not an actual wizard, but thats magic! πŸ™‚


October 22, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Jane A says:

woah… just watched the experiment, while ironically, my brother watches QI xD. amazing show, i was compleately captivated.

thanks for the show, cant wait for the next one. πŸ™‚


October 23, 2011 at 12:08 pm

Naturally, and as always just brilliantly and simply amazing presentation of the phenomena and the power of suggestion, thank´s a bunch Derren.


October 23, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Zufi Deo says:

I thought it was great to certify in reality what is actually possible. It does raise the concern about how people could use this kind of stuff for negative purposes without our systems and structures being able to tell who the culprit was. Hope this helps to draw these concerns into the main stream.


October 23, 2011 at 2:37 pm
sailor says:

“I enjoyed the show, although not entirely convinced. DB has mentioned previously that people under the influence of hypnosis could not perform something that was against their moral code, and I assume murder is one of them. ”
I doubt it is hard to get someone to to do something against their moral code. All you need to do when they are very suggestible is suggest the action they are doing in something within their moral code. In the famous example a hypnotist left some students with a hypnotized woman and when they asked her to undress she woke up. These students were not very subtle. If thy had suggested for example that it was night, and she was getting ready for bed and was going to take a shower, they may have had better luck.


October 23, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Jacqueline says:

@sailor. Thanks for the insight, I’m sure there is a huge difference between taking your clothes off and cold bloodied murder, a ‘National Treasure’ especially. I should imagine that type of ‘programming’ if it exists, takes more than a week of tea, biscuits and the odd suggestion slipped in there, this guy knew he was on a DB show, so the outcome would have been affected. I wonder what they would have done if he had decided to go against his ‘moral code’, a few more sessions in the ice box till he complied? Don’t get me wrong I enjoyed watching the process, it’s just that the end result was predictably unconvincing. As far as separating the actors from those genuinely suggestible, the ‘acid’ test would have been more convincing with a line up of more people, mixed reactions etc πŸ™‚


October 24, 2011 at 1:39 am
fearofdoubt says:

Mr Wonka, I do not know the answer but do I not deserve a go of your hat for knowing there is a question?


October 24, 2011 at 1:32 pm
sailor says:

Jaqueline, I am not in range of the show so I unfortunately cannot see it. But it you suggest to a person they are going to commit cold-blooded murder, you would probably get some resistance. Tell them it is imperative for them to shoot that person because he is just about to destroy the world and the reaction might be different. An alternative would be to tell them the thing that hare handling that feels like a gun is really some kind of camera…


October 25, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Melissa says:

please, answer me truthfully. are you a wizard? deadly serious, because this means that ghosts, vampires and werewolfs are real to!
only joking, hahahaha, but seriously.
Loved the show, i cant stop telling my parents about it and all your ither shows, truely amazing and captivating. Keep up the amazing, wonderful, magical work and I can not wait for the next one πŸ™‚


October 26, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Laura says:

I have to ask… was this a trick??? I am sure i have heard you once say that you could not make someone do something they thought or know is wrong, even under hypnosis. I think that was for “the heist’. So how did you now suggest that this guy shoot stephen fry?? Do you think that the guy that is locked up for murder is in fact an innocent man IF in fact what you have achieved here is NOT a trick???

Other than the millions of questions now running through my mind.. very good show.. Bit strange how people reacted to stephen fry being shot…as in.. not much going on. Is that shock??


October 26, 2011 at 11:26 pm
steven peters says:

I also remember Derren saying that on the Heist and as a Mentalist and Hypnotist myself i have always heard the same thing said that you cannot Hypnotize somebody to kill another person. I thought the assassin was brilliant TV and my theory ( I could be completely wrong) on how Derren achieved the end result is through the clever use of language in the suggestion. The suggestion was that when he heard the ring one he would believe he was at the shooting range shooting at a target and the final suggestion was that Stephen Fry was the target. So at the end of the day he never thought he was shooting Stephen fry he believed he was shooting at a target in the shooting range so he never thought he was shooting a person. like i said thats just my thery that could be completely wrong lol.


October 27, 2011 at 1:18 am
Glyn Walker says:

If you remember, the technique used implied that he was indeed shooting a target at a range, this would not imply to the candidate he is doing anything wrong, Stephen fry just became the visualised target of “the firing range”. If you catch my drift?…


October 27, 2011 at 3:44 am
Gazzelle says:

Fascinating. Really impressive. Well done Derren, one of your best and most nail biting shows yet.

It makes you wonder though that, if this is really possible, without any tv-style tricks, then where do we go from here?

If this is possible, then it’s very probable that the CIA did do what they’ve been accused of doing. So, if they did do it, that means the US government have been prepared to use their own citizens to do their dirty work for them, have been lying about their actions all this time (no great surprise there though) and perhaps should never be trusted again.

So where do we go from there and who was really behind the killing of Robert Kennedy?

But then, if there was an element of TV trickery all bets (and conspiracies) are off, I guess.

Gazzelle


October 27, 2011 at 8:27 am
rik says:

I’d just come back from the pub, so I can’t remember all of it. I think it was good, wasn’t it?


October 27, 2011 at 2:20 pm
steven peters says:

of course we hypnotize people to kill it’s how armies are trained it’s not hypnosis in the spooky trance like way we think hypnosis is. What do you think Drill training in the army is about it used to get people into a state of mind where they follow orders immediately and with out question and being in a state of mind where you will follow another persons orders with out question is hypnosis whether you are in a trance or not .


November 2, 2011 at 10:28 am
Sean says:

Hi Derren, Firstly really cool to have discovered you have a blog! Second, I watched this show the other day and was very impressed.
I am most fascinated by the snap hypnosis you performed on un-prepared candidates, this is really bizzarre. I keep wanting to try this on people to test if it really works, but I don’t like the idea of dealing with the outcome whether it works or not, – I’d love if you could write more about this in a blog (though maybe you’ll want to write it in a book I should go and buy, I’d understand)
Glad to see your new series is on TV and looking forward to Svengali 2012,

Sean


November 2, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Berber Anna says:

Sean, have you read Tricks of the Mind by Derren? He explains a little about hypnosis and quick inductions in that book (like how he found out he could do quick inductions when, as a student, he mistakingly thought he’d hypnotised a certain subject before).
But really, he’s not the only hypnotist doing this, and I’ve seen demonstrations at show hypnosis lectures before. The expectations of the subject can play a role — if he or she expects to go into a ‘trance’ at a certain cue (due to his or her preconceived notions about hypnosis), it can happen that fast. Also, the ‘pattern breaking’ (handshake and grab) puts a subject in a receptive, suggestable state, as I’ve experienced from the subject end myself — you do totally soak up what you’re told and it seems to make absolute sense.


November 3, 2011 at 9:59 am
Beverley says:

sorry if this has already been mentioned – am in library and don’t have time to check the last few comments. But Chris didn’t really act immorally to himself as he believed he was firing at the target. Will read and post more later.


November 3, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Beverley says:

Darn it sorry, people had already said what I said! Must admit it did seem odd that Chris didn’t mind taking a live gun to Derren but I suppose he might have thought it was for more shooting practice or something!


November 3, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Beverley says:

oh yeah, was thinking that someone like Sirhan Sirhan would not have willingly been hypnotised(?), so that could make a difference to the credibility of claims that he was in a trance. Hope that makes sense!


November 3, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Shai says:

If you can’t stop yourself being hypnotised like this then what regulations are there in place to safeguard the public from unscrupulous people using this technique in hard sales to make you sign over money/property???


November 18, 2011 at 10:19 am
Jeff Russell says:

Love the live shows and have been to many but if truth be told I just wasn’t impressed by the assassination show.
Granted the show will have been made slick and polished in the edit but the authenticity was summed up with one of the final comments “… the audience has absolutely no idea of what could happen”
If an audlence saw the “national treasure” that is Stephen Fry assassinated surely there would be concern, perhaps a few rushing the leave, maybe even a concerned few shielding their loved ones or a few cowards shielding themselves?
Instead what did happen was that two thirds of the audience were smirking in the frame immediate after the shooting they all didn’t know was coming and it didn’t look like a nervous smile or smirk either!
Showmanship and misdirection or misrepresentation? Sorry Derren, huge respect for you but not on that one


November 19, 2011 at 11:39 am
Steve says:

The Assassin may very well be my favorite of everything that Derren has done. It is so thought provoking


December 3, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Jane says:

since 1968 sirhan sirhan has been incarcerated!
that’s just one year less than my whole beautiful freedom of a life! And as Derren’s Assassin experiment so eloquently illustrated, Sirhan is quite probably innocent of conscious action regarding the shooting of Kennedy.
If so, I fervently hope that Derren’s demonstration leads to a Hurricane Higgins like turn of justice.
I would love Derren to interview Sirhan, not neccessarily for public viewing (tho i’d love to see it ) but, if possible and enrichening for Sirhan, for him to be helped to access the memory of his manipulation. so that he can know the truth in this incarnation, for his incarceration
How i would love to see this all laid out on a soul level, who did what, why and when
Thank you Derren. amazing. well done
Movie rights?