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DERREN BROWN – THE SECRET OF LUCK: TONIGHT AT 9PM CH4

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Posted by Derren Brown News November 11, 2011 at 6:30 pm

Just a little reminder that the final episode in ‘The Experiments’ series airs tonight at 9pm on Channel 4.

Leave your thoughts on the show in the comments section below, or click here to watch a sneak preview 🙂

COMMENTS
November 11, 2011 at 6:38 pm
chris says:

Will be watching this tonight! Great! :D:D


November 11, 2011 at 6:38 pm

nice to know that tonight will be a nice one 🙂


November 11, 2011 at 6:41 pm

I travelled over 200 miles to be in the audience of “Game Show” – I live 5 minutes down the road from Tod’. Does this make me kucky or unlucky?
I’ve got a ticket for the show in Leeds next year too.
I’m not sure this is entirely under my control !!


November 11, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Twichi says:

who’s tod morden?? 😛


November 11, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Tony Furminger says:

We’re watching it with a kind of apprehension and trying frantically to remember if either of us (me probably) said anything inappropiate that could lead to us (me) being lynched 😉


November 11, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Michael says:

Looking forward to the final episode! Let’s just hoe you got this one right! *cough, roulette wheel, cough*


November 11, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Normster says:

Loving it so far. Derrens subtle expressions and kindly manner are a treat. Why did he step back when he saw the pearls? Sorry I’m a bit behind, and a big behind.


November 11, 2011 at 7:49 pm
kitchenwriter says:

Can’t wait for tonights show!! Am tingling with anticipation!


November 11, 2011 at 8:08 pm

ohh will be watching 🙂 x


November 11, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Max says:

AH JESUS JUST LISTENED TO DRUGS DON’T WORK!!
Derren what have you done?


November 11, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Christine mleod says:

Keep doing a gd job hope a get some gd luck and all out there have a nice Xmas all xx


November 11, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Laura McH says:

LOVED tonights episode. Have been so upset after each of the other three that tonights has been such a relief to watch. Well done Derren and well done Wayne!


November 11, 2011 at 10:02 pm
kitchenwriter says:

Oh WOW – that was fantastic!!


November 11, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Debbie says:

Loved the experiments. Tonight was great. Real feel good, still smiling. Thanks


November 11, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Christine mleod says:

What a show it was gd x


November 11, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Kathryn Markey says:

Beautifully done Derren! And a joy to watch as always.


November 11, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Tom says:

I think Wayne took the challenge because he thought that Derren wouldn’t let him lose his money. Otherwise, would he really have put £1k down with a one in six chance of winning?


November 11, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Dan says:

Another great show, lots of positive things for us all to take away. Keep ’em coming!


November 11, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Glenn says:

I really hope that these Experiments turn out out to be experiments on us the viewers, rather than the subjects within the programs… If not, poor shows.


November 11, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Luke says:

10 heads in a row…


November 11, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Philip says:

Derren back to his best after the disappointing Game Show – fabulous feelgood TV


November 11, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Dan says:

@Tom – but that implies it must have been a trick…with a borrowed die which Derren didn’t handle?


November 11, 2011 at 10:09 pm
D says:

Another amazing show.!
Derren I love your shows, which I have to say are the best thing on tv since your last shows, keep them coming ! Oh and please pass my regards and contact details to Dawn Porter ! Many thanks. !


November 11, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Jaik says:

Excellent show Derren, best out of the four. I can’t help but think that you got your inspiration from A League of Gentlemen.


November 11, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Mark Redfearn says:

fantastic end to a wonderful series – i’ve loved the challenging but largely positive subtext to each episode (well, apart from shooting a national treasure).


November 11, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Pratik Patel says:

Loved the show, Brilliant


November 11, 2011 at 10:15 pm
D says:

And to add, congratulations to you Derren and all your team for an amazing 4 shows, was good to finish on a feel good note. I’ve enjoyed them all, what a wonderful emotional rollercoaster. Amazing tv! ! !


November 11, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Nicki P says:

Derren, you would not remember me but we were at Bristol University at the same time. You occasionally came to some fairly dire concerts by the University orchestra (Turangalila Symphony…..fairly inaccessible to most!!) I have followed your success and tonight’s show was great. I have wondered if you have ever considered doing a series with your skills in the power of suggestion and hynosis involving the world of Medicine. Now in that world and working as a GP I have a few ideas that could be explored! Your shows are always thought provoking.if a little black at times! Thank you!


November 11, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Kelly S says:

Amazing! I have to say I would have been like Wayne, missing all the opportunities but not any more thanks to Derren!


November 11, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Anne says:

Wow ity was amazing, I am so happy for Wayne! Well done Derren loved the shows! can not wait to see you in Dublin next March! The excitement is too much already!


November 11, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Christine mleod says:

He took that Chan he won gd on him a would have done the same a think we would have done the same wat that saying u win some u loss some but he won way 2 go How did u all find it wish it would be BK on vere soon x


November 11, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Alan Wallis says:

Extremely unethical episode tonight – dissapointed since the rest of the series was so good. Gambling destroys peoples lives and opportunities are not always good opportunities. All ill say is that if I were a confidence trickster, id know the ideal place to stage my next con.


November 11, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Phil Baines says:

Congratulations on The Experiments. Fabulous series and superb show tonight. The Secret of Luck was, dare I say it -emotional- and very well summarised.


November 11, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Andy says:

Brilliant show – even better than last week’s. Touble is, I no longer trust my eyes – but it did look as if the dice wobbled a bit unnaturally before coming down on 4. How about a magnetised dice with an electromagnet only turned on for the last roll?


November 11, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Marion says:

Completely brilliant. Love you Derren. Mxx


November 11, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Fi says:

That was great – I needed that reminder that we make our own luck!!! That was actually quite moving.

So, how’d you get the 4 to come up?


November 11, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Bee says:

Lovely end to an interesting and thought provoking series.
Had to remember to breath when Wayne was rolling that dice: desperately hoped he would be ‘lucky’.


November 11, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Christine mleod says:

what if it was u that won how would u fell if ppl were saying that about u am asking if u won that wot u do with the money xx


November 11, 2011 at 10:50 pm
YVONNE PARKER says:

Not happy with s sally how can she sleep! I have tickets too!


November 11, 2011 at 10:53 pm

Really lovely, feel-good finale to the Experiments series. Congrats to all involved.
I have to say that in this one I didn’t for one second think you’d let Wayne lose his money (a la ‘The System’) but it made for a lovely finish no matter what.

I admit I’ve been lucky with various things over the years, competitions etc. I usually find that luck finds you when you least expect it. A bit like a lot of things really. And it also depends on the person, as your show pointed out so vividly.

Oh and btw, a colleague of mine works up North and he helped with the fireworks that were laid on by you after. Name of Tony Ellams, who does that sort of thing in his spare time. Sounded very lovely of you.

Don’t be a stranger on our screens for too long now, Derren….. 🙂

LC x


November 11, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Richard says:

This programme was irresponsible and flawed.

Yes, people make their own luck. ‘Lucky’ and ‘unlucky’ people are the result of their choices. This was investigated by Professor Richard Wiseman and the results summarised in his book The Luck Factor (2003). So there’s nothing groundbreaking in tonight’s show.

But there’s a big difference between embracing possibilities and gambling. Wayne was open to the possibility of winning on the roll of the die, but that doesn’t mean that because he could take that risk, he should take it. After all, it’s a random event with a 5/6 chance of losing. The maths don’t lie. Recklessness is not the mark of a lucky person. So to show him gambling his life savings in such a sensationalist way undermined the whole premise of the show.


November 11, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Thistooshallpass says:

Lovely end to the series and I felt quite emotional when Wayne ‘eventually’ managed to ‘see’ his opportunity to win some money. I feel really sad all the experiments are over but I’m SO looking forward to seeing you next year Derren…only found out today, Bless you
Sue xx


November 11, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Mathias F says:

Well, I’ve just finished reeling from tonight’s show. I’m somewhat sad it’s the last one, but I tip my trilby to you Mr. Brown, that was fantastic XD


November 11, 2011 at 10:58 pm

Btw, this might be a silly question, but did you do the cartoons/drawings that were used throughout tonight’s show?

LC x


November 11, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Jessika says:

Derren, you rock.

That is all. 🙂


November 11, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Marty says:

Did I miss this bit? – What was the result of the phone call Wayne made?


November 11, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Sarah says:

Most of the comments on here don’t make any sense.
Anyway I liked tonight’s show, it was a good to have a nice one, the last 3 have been so mean. D:


November 11, 2011 at 11:28 pm
loz says:

Sally Morgan’s appearance was hilarious. Cheeky of you to get her in a show like that, Derren xD


November 11, 2011 at 11:37 pm
mark c says:

Genuinely touching stuff at the end, so pleased for Wayne that his newfound openess payed off! The power of positive thought is definately underrated. I guess its more comfortable to suspect trickery than to contemplate the alternative.


November 11, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Joe says:

I could go along with Andy’s idea, it did look unnatural to me!

When letting a crowd decide on a number 1-6, they will always come down on 3/4!! Same as letting them choose 1-10, it’s inevitably 7 for some reason.

Loved it, great show!


November 11, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Roger Kerr says:

Congrats as show as always, Not sure I agree with your concusions. As a ‘wayne’ I too would be looking up to make sure I didnt walk into a lampost rather than on the floor on the chance of finding £50. Should ‘Wayne’ saw his next oppertunity as a tip for a 10/1 shot at Newmarket, wounld you be happy for him to put his winnings on it?


November 11, 2011 at 11:58 pm
J says:

Brilliant! Not only another great show, but a much needed reminder that life is what you make it!


November 12, 2011 at 12:29 am
Stuart says:

Truly random result with the 4 at the end, the same or larger cash prize as a result of Wayne dialling the number if it rolls anything bar 4 – we were told it would have mixed results for him by leaving his message, but never really heard any outcome.

Life savings of £1,000 – I bet a few folk were humbled when they heard that. Well done Derren.


November 12, 2011 at 12:35 am
John S says:

Great episode but really can’t help to think the end result was controlled. The lack of expression on Derren’s face which to me, looked like he was expecting it. I think Derren did control the result as he always said hero at 30’000 feet was his favorite show that he did because he genuinely changed someones life. The same goes for this expect I think he would rather control the result so it was certain to would turn out to change someones life. I don’t think he would chance the guilt of losing a decent mans life savings. I think the ending was more to show to the whole public to take there every opportunity and not to presume bad luck in life, which in my opinion he achieved.


November 12, 2011 at 12:41 am
Karl says:

Great experiment


November 12, 2011 at 12:48 am
Karen says:

I have enjoyed all derren’s experiments all gave me something to think about. Did Derren perform some kind of magic so that Wayne won? dont belive everything i see. I always say that Derren would never get me. Going to see him in manchester. Magic is so believable.


November 12, 2011 at 12:50 am
Gareth Rees says:

“Brilliant show – even better than last week’s. Touble is, I no longer trust my eyes – but it did look as if the dice wobbled a bit unnaturally before coming down on 4. How about a magnetised dice with an electromagnet only turned on for the last roll?”

This is what I thought on first watch, and it becomes a more likely explanation the more I consider it – good shout IMO.


November 12, 2011 at 1:03 am
Elise says:

Oo, I loved this one! My favourite one. 😀 Clair de Lune again! Do you like that song by any chance? Lol. I do. Night night. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This show made me feel happy 😀


November 12, 2011 at 1:16 am
Natalie P says:

Derren, you’re a bloody wonderful human being! Love your shows, you always entertain me and leave me with food for thought. What a lovely thing to do for that butcher tonight, Wayne Stansfield.


November 12, 2011 at 1:19 am

What a great show the tears rolled down my face as I laughed so hard at my cartoon. Can I get one for my scrap book?
Tod is a great place,the show was brill, thanks Derren you wer really lovely, Sally the artist xx


November 12, 2011 at 1:32 am
Jemma says:

Ive often wondered that im one if the mist unluckiest people in the world at times. No one day ever goes straight for me.
Is it really down to the way I think or?
Opportunities dont often come my way and it seems one tradegy after another. What did i do that was so bad to deserve all this? (is my usual thought). Apart from put others first all of the time instead of myself, i dont know.should i be a selfish one or should i continue googling “bad luck”.
Interesting show though.
Thanks


November 12, 2011 at 1:37 am
Colin says:

I used to live in Todmorden. It’s in the middle of both nowhere and everywhere. Look through back issues of Todmorden News: for a population of only 15,000 there is a lot goes on in that there valley… it’s more than just “the biggest place for lesbians!”


November 12, 2011 at 1:50 am

@Tom & @Dan

But with 4 chances to roll a specific number, don’t the odds rise to 671/1,296 or 51.77 % ? Of course, it was still a huge gamble, but higher odds than 1 in 6. Great show anyway, left me planning to “feel lucky” more often hehe


November 12, 2011 at 1:59 am
Richard says:

As Luke said, I think “10 heads in a row” is the secret behind the 4 coming up.


November 12, 2011 at 3:18 am
Chris Stacey says:

Would the show have still been as powerful if Wayne had “failed” and Derren had given him the money anyway for having taken a “chance”? Would the caveat of having three chances have allowed for a ‘magician’s choice’, facilitating a justified edit of the final footage? Or perhaps three chances gave Wayne the oportunity to subconsciously effect the way he dropped the die? Hmmm…


November 12, 2011 at 5:44 am
Pepin says:

Derren seemed quite surprised at the outcome. I don’t think he believed it would work out at the end.


November 12, 2011 at 7:47 am
Valerie Somers says:

Great show Derren!!! Nice to see a happy ending for Wayne. Embarrassing for Sally Morgan though!! I love watching you xx


November 12, 2011 at 8:02 am
stan says:

Last time I changed someones tyre I got mugged.
Last time I entered a free draw I Ripped off.
Last time I helped a survey I got my wallet stolen.
Last time I rang a number it cost me £10.
Last time I threw a die I lost my fare home..
moral, “if someting is too good to be true it probably is”


November 12, 2011 at 8:42 am
Paul Budding says:

loved the first 3 shows… not the last one though. Im suspicious about it and I dont think derren should encourage gambling. First 3 shows were awesome 10 out of 10.


November 12, 2011 at 8:55 am
Jen says:

Having done a lot of soul searching lately, your programs have helped me come to some logical solutions.
Love how you demonstrate the power of the human mind, these shows have kept me on tenterhooks and each time has surprised me how suggestible we humans are. Good work
You must come to northern ireland……we are known for our gullibility haha


November 12, 2011 at 9:07 am
Sophia says:

I was smiling through out the whole show, makes me realize that maybe I should take up more opportunities! I felt inspired and was moved by Wayne, what a wonderful ending to a fascinating series!


November 12, 2011 at 9:29 am
Megan Strong says:

i have loved the series and are looking forward to future show. ps love it so much!!!!


November 12, 2011 at 9:43 am
Judith says:

Loved the show, plus The Drugs Don’t Work by The Verve is one of my favorite songs and number 4 is my favorite number so I hope this is a good sign 😀 . I was actually thinking they would all pick number 4 as well. I wonder if Derren put subliminal messages around the town so they would pick 4. LOVED IT!! Looks a lovely place too :D. Xx


November 12, 2011 at 9:53 am

I’m a 27 year old writer / video editor living in California going through a bit of a rough patch in life right now. I just watched the episode and was so moved I decided that within 1 year I will figure out a way to get to the U.K. (where I’ve wanted to spend a year or ten for quite some time now anyway), find my way to Todmorden, and touch that stupid statue. Not sure why but I have a feeling I’ll find luck along the way. Thanks for that hope! It’s something I haven’t known in quite some time.


November 12, 2011 at 9:58 am
Jess says:

The Experiments were amazing! Please do some more?? x


November 12, 2011 at 10:02 am
Rosie S says:

Last night’s experiment on ‘Good Luck’, I think, yes, proved the point that if we aren’t open to receive opportunities we won’t see them, and hence we feel we have bad luck…It reminds me of the story of a man who died and went to heaven, where upon God greeted him and the man very angrily said “You didn’t try to save me, let me live, when I prayed so hard for you to do so!” God responded by asking the man a question ” Did you not see the log I sent you?” …To explain – the man had been clinging to a roof with flood waters encroaching…he couldn’t swim…he thought he would drown if someone didn’t save him…HE DIDN’T SEE THE LOG that bumped up against the roof, that he could have climbed on and saved himself! How much Wayne, in this programme, reminded me of him.


November 12, 2011 at 10:03 am
Rosie S says:

Continuation of previous post by me –
…However, the programme then raised some very interesting questions because many of the ‘lucky’ things that happened were to do with something other than opportunity because it was in the realm of gambling, which really is to do with – what else can we call it, but – LUCK…?! It really seemed to show that if you INTEND and think you will be lucky, you will be…to the extent that in the grand finally, even with the odds stacked against the outcome of the dice falling where it did…It did (Sadly, many people who are now in Gamblers Anonymous felt convinced of this too, until they had to finally admit that wishing something to happen, patently was not working for them!)


November 12, 2011 at 10:03 am
Rosie S says:

Continuation of previous post by me –
BUT, it seemed something was operating on some level…as I watched, ‘I knew’ 4 was going to be the number chosen by the audience, and it was. That kind of knowing happens regularly to me, and the more I ‘listen’ to – what, I can only call intuition, I seem to notice, and have, these flashes of knowing more and more…?! I do posit there is indeed something to the idea of ‘resonance’, and that we can influence the outcome of situations, and that with a ‘group energy’ helping to intend it – even the role of a dice can be influenced. Now, that, Mr Brown, is what I think is really interesting, and needs investigating!


November 12, 2011 at 10:10 am
peterjoe says:

Luck is like lightning: it’s more likely to strike if you hoist a lightning conductor.


November 12, 2011 at 10:21 am
Lankman says:

It was a shame that the ending was faked with a previous camera shot, the need for a count down and the pre selected contestant a bit of a give away. Getting the kid up, nice touch.


November 12, 2011 at 10:56 am
Matt says:

There seems to be two possibilities here.

1) Derren somehow switched the dice at some point. (Dawn had already filmed in the toyshop – he could have found out the kind of dice the shop sold and swapped the stock for a weighted or magnetic dice) I have seen a similar thing on Real Hustle where they replace normal cards with tampered resealed cards in a shop and get the subject to buy ‘new’ cards.

2) It was just a normal dice with a 1 in 6 chance, and the dice just happened to land on 4. If the dice did land on 4, Derren could have just turned it around and given him the money anyway, claiming that it was about him taking opportunities that was the real test.


November 12, 2011 at 10:56 am
Matt says:

(Sorry my comment was split up)

….Either way it’s a ‘hit’, however if Derren could have found a way to influence the roll of the dice – and I’m sure he would, and easily could have – it would make for a much better ending/television.

Nice work with Sally Morgan by the way. More evidence that psychics are either delusional or outright charlatans.

I like how Derren is continuing the tradition of the magician as scpetic i.e. Houdini, Randi, Penn & Teller etc.


November 12, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Phillip says:

I noticed how the lucky statue of a dog, could possibly have represented Deity worship, by design or accident. Dog spelled backwards being God. I suppose it is a far more rich and exciting experience when we approach opportunities as a rational and critical minded human being, and not from behind the guise of a comfortable superstition that some people base and revolve their life around.

It was good to see your thought provoking series of The Experiments go out with a bang, with a firework display and I (luck) forward to the next series/book/tour of yours.


November 12, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Jules says:

great series, provoking more serious realisations about the common state of mind. i work in banking and have to watch and manage the economic impacts on everyone around me, not just how the industry is on the brink of imploding but how my friends and family are coping and trying to keep themselves positive and focused, when its easy to fear the worst at the moment, when people you thought were in safe jobs, are currently out of work. i think this series is so timely as the messages can have just a reassuring impact in that no matter what goes on in and around our lives, we can continue to control by owning our choices and decisions and to wake up. The UK the world is going through a huge flux of change but this change will bring new opportunity, so good time to keep an open state of mind.


November 12, 2011 at 12:57 pm
soA says:

phillip, dog spelt backwards as God doesn’t say anything, not only is that blasphemous but also illogical.


November 12, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Sam says:

Dear Derren,

I have a question in regards to Wayne and the win at the end of last nights experiment. It is my belief that you would not have genuinely allowed Wayne to gamble his life savings on the simple role of a dice. Therefore it leads me to believe that as the point of your experiment as i see it was not “luck” but the mentality behind it, that a real gamble or act of chance at the end was irrelevant to the point being made.

Following the point made at the start of the program, with the planting of a song in someones head, done over simply the course of a day. I can see it no great leap that planting the number 4 in the mind of the town over the course of 3months would not be a great difficulty for yourself, especially with Dawn walking around filming for 3months regularly stating


November 12, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Sam says:

cont from above

“we’re filming a documentary for channel 4” and many other techniques you must have employed.

Therefore my question is, was Wayne’s 1 in 6 chance gamble, in fact not such the gamble it first appears to be.

Please do not take this question negatively, I am a huge fan of yours, having read several of your books, watched all of your shows and seen you live, sadly only once.

I simply wish to determine whether I am correct in thinking this, as it also leaves the town as a whole with the positive conformation of taking chances, and not feeling like they have lost anything that they gained during the 3 months prior to the final event.

Kind regards,

Sam Farley


November 12, 2011 at 1:29 pm
alan says:

Bounteousness, such as that exhibited in the latest experiment, deserves not to go unrewarded. So I for one will be forwarding all the munificent money making material I receive from Nigerian dignitaries and such like, on to DB to take fullest advantage of.
If like me, the subject had no previous (to indoctrination) conscious knowledge of either tune or artist. How much would luck play a part in who had been picked?


November 12, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Linda says:

Brilliant! Heartwarming! Inspiring! Hilarious! ‘The Gameshow’ was horrendous and would have switched channels withing minutes had I not known it was an ‘experiment’. The ‘Guilt Trip’ was also terrifying and painful to watch. But ‘The Secret of Luck’ made it all worthwhile! I am inspired, and if nothing else I know that I am very ‘lucky’ indeed to live in such a beautiful place! BTW, no wonder Sally declined the Halloween invite! Lol!


November 12, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Berber Anna says:

Was it just me, or was that the Stig behind the wheel in the animation of them going to Blackpool?


November 12, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Naz says:

Loved the show and the Experiments series. There are few programmes on TV that really make you think, and it has gone on to show how powerful belief can be. I have always finished watching the show feeling not only entertained but as if I’ve learnt something.

The dog might not be lucky, but the people of Todmarden certainly were.

Well done Derren, Look forward to seeing you live next year. 🙂


November 12, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Paul says:

Love the show… what was the beautiful piece of music used at the end for the fireworks?
Yours hopefully, PM


November 12, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Barry says:

Surely Wayne was short changed? 1k on a 6/1 bet pays back 6k winnings plus 1k stake = 7k, not the 6k Derren paid him.


November 12, 2011 at 2:40 pm
George says:

I cried. Thats age for you.


November 12, 2011 at 4:24 pm
spiderabc1 says:

dog god die dice…either way the show(s) have been great. (nb Greyfriars Bobby hoax)


November 12, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Don says:

Sally,

‘I knew’ 4 was going to be the number chosen by the audience, and it was. That kind of knowing happens regularly to me,

Derren subtly directed the townsfolk (and you and I) to pick four. He’s an illusionist; it’s what he does.


November 12, 2011 at 4:50 pm

Great show until the final stunt. Gambling your life’s savings on the roll of a die isn’t taking an opportunity — it’s being foolish.


November 12, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Rory says:

Thank you for the whole series Derren Brown! I’ve got to say that my favoruite was the first one and the third one. Very entertaining and eyes-opener.


November 12, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Rhian says:

Lovely end to your Experiments last night Derren. Looking forward to seeing what else you have up your sleeves. x 😉


November 12, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Daniel Edwards says:

Wow, what a wonderful conclusion to the experiments, and the most relevant and profound of the series. For me the Dog was no different from all other superstitious, mythical and religious beliefs held by individuals through blind faith without evidence. In a similar way, despite the residents of Todmorden now being in the knowledge that the Dog wasn’t magical in any way, i imagine many will continue to treat it as lucky because much like theists, there main concern is comfort rather than truth. It was a great demonstration of how such illogical superstitious beliefs created, passed on and maintained in the face of reason.


November 12, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Matt says:

The whole way through I was just thinking of Richard Wiseman – The Luck Factor

By being optimistic about our oppertunities we create our own ‘good luck’ for ourselves.


November 12, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Alex says:

Does anyone have any idea what that piano song is called which is playing at the fireworks show at the end of the programme? It’s well-known piano piece that’s probably been in loads of films and adverts but I can’t seem to find out what it is!


November 13, 2011 at 12:38 am
Pete says:

Slight of hand, loaded dice and the help of strategicaly placed stage props (the covered cute, the step ladders/table) all forming the basic shape of a ‘4’, not to mention Derren’s uniquely ingenious methods of convincing people to ‘choose’ for themselves. Often emotional and absolutely amazing from start to finish.

These experiments have honestly changed the way I look at my life and the decisions I make. I would like to thank Derren for opening our eyes to the incredible complexities of the mind and look forward to seeing what unbelieveable stunt he will come out with next.


November 13, 2011 at 2:07 am
Lauren says:

Your going to think im crackers for saying this… but I think the will of everyone watching had an effect on the outcome lol… i had my figers crossed (superstision again) and was whispering under my breathe 4, 4, 4 please, be a 4

So happy he got it tho, moving story. I find luck a point of view, being shot at is unlucky but not being killed is lucky… being stabbed is unlucky… surving is lucky…


November 13, 2011 at 8:26 am
barb says:

Life can’t always be rational. Sometimes ya gotta let go and live a little.


November 13, 2011 at 9:38 am
Nick_j says:

I think it’s obvious that having Wayne win the money was the best outcome for the show. Whether Derren controlled the outcome or not is almost irrelevant.
Assuming that he DID control the outcome (and it’s a reasonable assumption), I reckon the magnetised die is probably the most likely way he’d do it.
Simply editing the footage later on isn’t really his style – he’s too much of a showman for such a banal solution, and it would discredit the show if people found out (which they almost certainly would).
Knowing that a room full of people will prefer the numbers 3/4 on a die, I bet he slipped in some neuro-linguistic programming to ensure they leaned toward 4.

Let’s not forget – while he often manipulates events, Derren rarely lies on his show. He didn’t say it was a normal dice.


November 13, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Don says:

I doubt the dice was loaded, because it had to land on four only at the third roll. So magnetized sounds the most plausible. I suspect Derren always knew what that roll would be, it was a question on manipulating a whole town into making it happen. But it’s really just manipulating probabilities, it could have gone wrong. Sometimes it has, maybe Derren likes the risk of it all going wong.


November 13, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Linda says:

Well, it certainly proved unlucky for Sally Morgan – her own ego and greed to get her face in front of the cameras is proving her own downfall now. Well done Derren.


November 13, 2011 at 9:14 pm

Hi darren you are amazon in what you do never know someone to be so good at there job like that other people try it and they are the biggest fakrs going ur not you sre the best

the strange thing is that my husband was born 27 /2/1972 and you are born on 27/2/71 strange he wants to met up with u if you dont mind all the best thanks
steph


November 13, 2011 at 11:17 pm
amo says:

Why the scribbles in the pad when Derren had the interview with the reporter? Seems unusual no one is talking about it!


November 14, 2011 at 1:14 am
Brasidas says:

Yup the die was obviously magnetised and Derren was quite fair in allowing us to see the slow motion of the die in the bowl, so we could see how its rotation was arrested unnaturally when 4 was uppermost.


November 14, 2011 at 10:01 am

Why is there no “There’re no actors or stooges used in the program” line?


November 14, 2011 at 10:31 am
Jason says:

How come you offered the Butcher £5,000 against his £1,000 stake and noone seemed to notice (edited?) that this was a raw deal for the butcher? Surely there would have been som gamblers there that would know that you should have staked £6,000 to make it “fair”? Or is this another Derren trick to be revealed later?


November 14, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Liz says:

I was very uneasy watching the episode Secret of Luck. I have recently found out that my dad has a gambling problem which has caused the family a lot of upset.It seemed like Derren was trying to say we make our own luck by being open to opportunities. This is fine valid theory, but why promote gambling? I really didnt think it was right that Derren took his money to bet on the roll of a dice. £1000 is far too much money to gamble away. And yes, it was almost certainly rigged so the Wayne would win the money. This has left the message that if you gamble more, you are more likely to win big someday!!! This is a TERRIBLE message to send out to vulerable people who believe that one day there number will come up. I was so thankful that my Dad was not watching this programme!


November 14, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Berber Anna says:

Kakynologyst: Because the initial stunt (with the song) involved some acting, the survey girl handing out twenties was an actress as was the girl playing the PA with the flat tyre, and Dawn Porter could be seen as an actress/stooge/confederate in the whole scheme as well.


November 15, 2011 at 6:44 am

Wonderful end to the Experiments!

I do agree that taking opportunities is positive, but maybe not encouraging folks to gamble their life savings on the roll of a dice. Gambling your life savings on the roll of a dice when Derren Brown is in charge doesn’t seem like a bad bet though 😉

I am about the least superstitious person I know, but if I ever make it to the UK the Lucky Dog will be on my list of things to see. In that way I think this episode was a bit of good luck for the whole town. I’m sure Mike’s sudden boom in revenue had a bit to do with all the publicity surrounding the dog.

Now, I have to pull a bit of pedantics. Contrary to some comments here, the payout for the dice roll was completely fair. 1/6 is not the same as 1:6. Understanding maths can help your luck too.


November 15, 2011 at 1:27 pm
shawn says:

Liz@ you do not understand. He didnt take his money, and no it was not rigged, It is the very people like you who do not have the mental capacity sufficient to understand these things, you do not know the message behind this, look at it like this

Taking more oppotunities = more luck.
BUT ALSO MORE FAILURE.

but the failure is disregarded, it is much easier to remember the time you won some money, than to remember the times you didnt. (unless there was something significant about the loss)

If you buy more scratch cards, will you win more? OBVIOUSLY
will you loose more? YES!
its the POSITIVE THINKING aspect that makes it feel as if you have won more, same as negative thinkers thinking they have lost more… Only a retarded individual would think that derren is saying, GAMBLE MORE


November 15, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Dan says:

Finally got round to watching this last night. I really enjoyed this episode as I find this whole field interesting (placebo, mind over matter, positve mental attitude etc). I also fully agree with Derren’s view that these oddities are so much more interesting when we consider that it is us, as human beings, having the impact as opposed to some supernatural force (God, Lady luck, magic etc.).
A real bonus for me was that Sally Morgane (?) made out that the ‘whole area had a vortex’ despite it all being made up….brilliant.
I appreciate what Liz said above about gambling (scratch card, blackpool, roll of a dice) as there is an irrational element to gambling which this would feed. To overcome this, I was expecting Derren to reveal the trick.


November 15, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Dan says:

Not sure if these are read by the production team but thought I would put down my thoughts on ‘the experiments’ for the next series.
These certainly should continue! It is clear Derren et al have a real interest in social psychology and these programmes are not only entertaining but help lay people (everyday people like you and me) understand how people behave, why we do the things we do and how to change our perception to make us happier.

I think there should be a little more focus on ‘control’ over the experiments wherever possible. The murder mystery is an example of how this was done really well. The gameshow not so much. As for ethics, I’m confident behind the scenes this is done but as reflected in the comments, there are concerns. Perhaps report what was done on this blog?


November 15, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Vaughn Toulouse says:

Loved the way you got Sally Morgan involved to spout her infinite wisdom on the lucky dog .!! It`s about time these people were taken more seriously by Trading Standards etc , making wads of cash out of pretending to hear message sfrom dead people….its laughable. The TV companies that give her [and all the others , yes you Colin Fry ] a platform & enable them to line their pockets from gullible & vulnerable people are just as culpable IMHO but “that`s entertainmment” I suppose .


November 15, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Nick Hill says:

Hi Derren

Recently returned from a holiday in mexico where I read your new book, I did the Q & Z mind trick you explained , i was amazed when it worked on some other people we met out there.
this is my new party trick (“,)


November 15, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Jake says:

@Amo, it’s shorthand


November 15, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Sally says:

@Amo The scribbles in the reporter’s notepad was shorthand


November 15, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Andrew says:

I was slightly dissappointed with The Experiments. Just finished watching through my dvd’s of Inside Your Mind and Trick Of The Mind and it really hits home to me how much better he is at this type of material. I’m not criticising Derren’s ambition to branch out and try to progress from his earlier material but unfortunately for me he has become over ambitious. Perhaps I’ve never quite recovered from the remarkably misjudged lottery stunt and the “failed” casino stunt that followed to cover his back. Whatever it is, since then I just haven’t felt the buzz of watching him like I did before. It saddens me to say it because I love Derren and I love the majority of his work. I was hoping this series would change my dads mind about Derren but it’s only annoyed him more and I can kind of see why


November 16, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Keith says:

Awesome episode! Loved it. My only issue is with Derren’s repeated use of the phrase “a dice”. What? Surely “a die” or “some dice”. From reading Derren’s books, this can’t have escaped his masterful grasp of vocabulary and grammar. Dumbed down for the viewing public, maybe?
Oh no, “a flies” has come in through the window while I’ve been writing this. Just off to eat “a pies” for lunch. Etc.
Pedantic, moi?


November 16, 2011 at 9:16 pm

Thought provoking, fantastic series, really making people think about how they live and how the slightest thing can make a massive impact x


November 16, 2011 at 10:52 pm
adrian says:

I have chronic depression and severe social phobia, I’ve spent the last three years in a small flat barely leaving, usually only to buy necessities, often not even able to get out of bed. I don’t often open mail and rarely answer the phone, any social interaction has been rendered almost impossible. However after watching your show on Friday I wondered if a change of luck may help that; that taking an opportunity might be in order, both my doctor and therapist agreed. Today I answered the door for the first time in over two years; turned out to be a bailiff. I called my friend afterwards she said “Better luck next time.” I lost an Xbox but feel great because I answered that damn door.

I wanted to say thanks.


November 17, 2011 at 4:47 am
Luke says:

Hello from the USA. I’m a big fan of Derren. I wish we had a talented, educated, and brilliant performer such as Derren here in the states.

THANK YOU DERREN for doing what you do.


November 17, 2011 at 5:24 pm
stanamoo says:

amo says:
13/11/2011 at 11:17 PM

Why the scribbles in the pad when Derren had the interview with the reporter? Seems unusual no one is talking about it!

That’s shorthand.


November 17, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Kelly S says:

Amo: The ‘scribbles’ are shorthand, a system used a lot by journalists, secretaries etc when they have to write a lot of information quickly, no trickery there.

Brasidas: Why on earth would the toy shop owner give Derren a magnetised die?

Why do some people have so much trouble believing that Derren’s programmes are legit? No matter where I read about them there are always loads of comments alleging some kind of trickery or, worse of all, that he’s lying about what he’s doing. That wouldn’t be in his interest plus if he was lying someone would have come forward by now and exposed it. I loved The Experiments and cannot wait to see what his ‘evil’ little mind comes up with next!


November 18, 2011 at 4:52 pm
carl says:

I wonder if Derren could turn an athlete into a world beater through the power of the mind.


November 19, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Sam says:

“Lauren says:
Your going to think im crackers for saying this… but I think the will of everyone watching had an effect on the outcome lol… i had my figers crossed (superstision again) and was whispering under my breathe 4, 4, 4 please, be a 4.”

You are exactly the type of person Derren was reaching out to during the programme, and you’ve completely missed the whole message of the show. It is clear that the audience had no effect on the outcome – magical thinking has been debunked many times over and yet, undoubtedly people will still cling to their beliefs. People in Todmorden will now be coming to terms with re-attributing any good luck they had during those 3 months, but I guarantee there will be those who refuse to accept it, and will still believe the dog to be lucky.


November 19, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Gary says:

Jason,

Odd that isn’t it? How about my £1,000 against your £6,000 on the roll of dice? We’ll run the bet a couple of thousand times. Actually, I’m feeling lucky. My £1,000 against your £5,500, and we’ll bet on the outcome 2,000 times. How about it?


November 20, 2011 at 8:39 pm
James Robinson says:

Seriously how many people on here can’t do basic maths.

If a dice has a one chance in six of winning then you pay (as Derren did correctly) 5/1.


November 30, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Rene says:

Brasidas says:
14/11/2011 at 1:14 AM
“Yup the die was obviously magnetised and Derren was quite fair in allowing us to see the slow motion of the die in the bowl, so we could see how its rotation was arrested unnaturally when 4 was uppermost.”

I agree with this, and the fact that he let us see clearly the slow motion replay shows he’s not trying to trick us there, but just making the town happy being a good showman. Someone else mentions that he never claims the die is not altered, he’s not known for lying. And how did he get a magnetized dice from the shop owner? Well he obviously switched it while no one was paying attention, this is one of his favorite tricks. He would have also had to know which die the shop owner would bring. Easy for him to figure out. Great show, as always.


December 20, 2011 at 3:47 am
Yeung Shing Tak says:

Hey Derren, my name is Shing Tak from Hong Kong. Like all the people here I enjoy all of your shows. I dreamt of meeting you the other night and asked you questions that have been in my head for long. Well, I have been playing magic for a while (never a pro! damn!) and I have to say you just mess up people heads so cleverly even with some simple tricks. I leave a message here because like everyone else, I would like to make friends with you. Just taking my ‘luck’ here lol. You gonna make me the next Wayne?? lol!! You have my email! I’ll be waiting!!


December 21, 2011 at 2:33 am
Claire says:

Alex – the piano piece is Au clair de la lune by Debussy, although I think the version played in The experiment was being played on harp. Hope this helps 🙂


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