Why Derren was banned from so many casinos – the inside story.
Phillis has just received news from a previous acquaintance of Derren’s about the bearded tricksterΓ’β¬β’s crafty exploits and how they lead to him being banned in casinos across the country.
In 2000, a young lady was working as a valet girl in a prominent London casino. Having worked in other venues, she was always happy to see a devilishly handsome young man with a rather familiar face. Nikki was unaware of the individualΓ’β¬β’s true identity – he was known to her only as someone frequenting her other places of work, both in and outside London. This young man was our very own Derren Brown, still early on in his career and not the international super-celebrity we all know him as today.
Nikki described him as “very personable. Always polite and well dressed and he took time out to talk to me and ask me questions about how the casino operated.”
Derren slowly became a regular. His demeanor was described by many as “quiet but very confident. Your average casino card player has at most a good grasp of the game. Derren knew exactly what was going on, he was extremely focused and calculated.”
This was not an unusual situation until Nikki began to realize that “Derren rarely ever placed a bet. At most he would play the fruit machines and seemed to have worked out how to crack them, but he would sit for ages at the card tables and just watch. Eventually he would opt in and place a small bet, he won every time without fail.”
It seemed to impress the other players at the tables and slowly became a novelty. Some thought Derren was there as entertainment, others were more intrigued: “he was very popular, everyone wanted to talk to him and find out who he was, what he did or how he managed to pull off a 100% result.”
Derren slowly increased the frequency and amounts he would bet. “It was never a large amount, but as it became more apparent he would never fail there was a point at which the pit bosses would become agitated”.
Soon he was beginning to be recognised. “The second he walked in there would be a fluster. The pit bosses would call to alert each other that he was in the building. I was instructed to stay close to him and get him whatever he asked for – to be extra nice to him”.
Meetings were held about what to do and soon it was decided that they didn’t want to risk making a scene. Very cleverly, Derren had managed to make quite an impression on people – if he began betting large amounts it could reflect badly on the casino if they decided to eject him in front of a cheering crowd.
So, quietly but surely, Derren began having trouble getting into certain venues – even with a subtle disguise he would be discovered and frogmarched out of the door. He would travel further afield but the network closed up and soon Derren realised fewer and fewer places were open to him. Eventually he scored a show with a popular TV network in the UK and put his casino days behind him for good.
The plot thickens…:D
Lovely little warm up reading for tonight’s proceedings — love it.
I would’ve much preferred to hear about disorientated pit bosses and croupiers running out to steal televisions – but a great story nonetheless.
Luck be a lady tonight.
wow, thats so cool π Derren is awesome π
I’m not sure getting banned from a casino for card counting is legal in the UK. Even in the US, someone sued the casino and won..!
wonder if he’s banned in America
very interesting
Bless. He could always play Texas Hold ‘Em Poker on Facebook if he is desperate for a game… or call around my house and play for fun.
Aww poor Derren! he is a crafty little gorgeous human being though π but i suppose if they didnt want to lose money then they did the right thing, casinos arent there to just give money out to every tom dick and harry! x
Hm …. yes .. the picture becomes clear. Actually, now that I see it .. the person left out a few details. ..
As an ex-croupier I found this very interesting. As a rule, if a punter is barred for winning too much money (and this does happen) they are rarely escorted from the building. Rather they find out on their next visit.
I can imagine it would have been fun to deal blackjack to Derren, there’s nothing nicer than when the good guys win.
I wouldn’t have thought that you could be refused entry for being a consistent winner alone. Consistently winning large amounts yes, such as in the first series of ‘Tricks of the Mind’. Whatever the winning techniques are, I do enjoy the misdirection involved in the production!
Fantastic, just loved reading this. What can I say? Derren you’re my absolute hero!! π
LC x
Such a sly fox π
Poor Derren… he’s too brilliant for his own good, so it seems. π
Unsuspecting European casino’s beware! Really looking forward to tonight’s Event but so sad it’s the last one.
Do you think he could beat Criss Angel at poker?
A casino can bar any member at any time without giving any reason, just for the record π
>ScreamingGreenConure says:
>October 2, 2009 at 6:42 pm
>Do you think he could beat Criss Angel at poker?
That comment should’ve ended at the word ‘Angel’ – posed as a request….
Ahhh, but what’s Derren like on those 2p arcade slot machines with the sliding drawers? It’s all in how much you can shove them without setting off the motion siren or alerting the management π
That’s the limits of my gambling expertise!
@PhilStephens: I was trying to be topical!
so tonight is a walk in the park then!! still very excited
@Flapjack – those ‘games’ drive me mad!! π
What I’d give to have Derren in disguise and go to the races with me. I know my horses, Derren could do the ‘finances’…. yep, just the once would be enough! lol (but alas, I know Derren doesn’t do that sort of thing anymore…… ;()
Anyway, am sooooo looking forward to 9pm tonight.
LC x
Atleast Derren probably wont have a gambling addiction in the near future lol… Or atleast it will now be very hard for him to become addicted. Really looking forward to tonights show… As always Derren never ceases to amaze.
What a smooth operator! But imagine being rejected frm every casino, then years later the casino owners seeing you being an international super-celebrity! mega slap on the face or what! lol. Cant wait to see tonight, I know I’ll have my fingers crossed!
Ooooooohhh, that’s interesting. Can’t wait to watch tonight’s show. =D
That’s a pretty nice story.
Going to enjoy tonight, especially if he gives away some valuble secrets π
I think ‘The events’ aren’t going on for long enough, and they aren’t as new and interesting as they should be. But ofcourse there is alot of nice things involved in each episode, I don’t think he got to the point alot of the time.. Meh.
He’s clever and well executed, a great peformer. π
Bit of a non story, in general people who can repeatedly go to a casino without ending up emptying out their pockets into their hands tends to get barred. Simple economics really. Surprised it’s only happened recently, though
@ flapjack – I’m appauling at shoving those machines. ALWAYS set the alarm off. I just don’t know my own strength! Here we are, grasping at coppers and Derrens pulling out the stops in casinos. GRRR! π
me too
A very interesting read. Sounds like tonight will be easy for you Derren π Good luck – not that you need it! I can’t wait to see tonight’s show, but I can’t believe it’s the last one π xxx
Unless Derren is cheating, he is not breaking rules. Therefore it is not right to kick him out of a casino because he is following rules.
e.g. Remembering all the dealt cards in a Blackjack game so you can do a safe ‘hit me’ move to win is NOT a cheat. I consider that a strategy because it does not break the rules of the game.
Yeah, gonna laugh at this casino when it gets owned tonight π
LadyClaire/ Muse Fiona – the best way to win at the 2p slotties I’ve discovered is to treat it as a game where you start with one poundsworth of copper coinage and your OBJECTIVE is to loose all those coins in the minimum amount of time. Whenever you win a mini-landslide of copper currency it’s your duty to plough them back into the machine again in the shortest time possible.
If you can convince yourself that was your objective in the first place it takes the edge of the inevitable spirit-crushing defeat as your last 2p plinky-plonks down the perspex laminated grid of nails into coppery oblivion.
OK, now I feel really sad and pathetic. I should probably get out more π
Ooooooooh! It’s coming on!
Arghhhh…. can’t believe this is the last one π
What am I going to do on a Friday now :'(
x x
I bet he could empty a teddy claw machine in an instant! Next years series ‘Derren Does Great Yarmouth’!
Unlucky Derren. =/
Argh, one number out, unlucky fella.
Hey Derren and crew!
Just watched show. Bad luck… although you did say there was a twist π
Still very impressed by the closeness of the calculation though, well done D.
I hope you don’t get too many ‘haters’ from this, because it’s really not deserved.
Pax, amor et concordia!
x
Wow, one out
No Shame in being one out on the roulette wheel Derren. It was a very interesting experiment and as such was undertaken to determine whether it was possible or not. Although one digit out wasnt the winning result int was incredbible close and proves that calculating the trajectories in the wheel by a human is a very demanding an precise feat.
Well done!
Rgds,
Kev
Don’t even worry about it Derren! You are incredible and fantastic and one off is not bad at all!!!
We all still love you, and I’d like to see any one who says you had failed try what you do!
Much love to Derren and the whole team!
Aww, so near yet so far, Derren. Such a shame. But you did say it wasn’t an exact science. Loved the show, the whole series, everything! π
LC x
Oh no …. unlucky Mr.B.
I still love you though!!!
I can’t belive it. That was scary to watch, and only 1 number our. Suppose it brings the realism out that it isn’t all actors and rigged equipment.
Oh I feel so sorry for Derren.. one out damb… Very sad! But still love ya XX
1 number, awwww, keep going Derren ! You know, and we know you can do it.
Gem x
Omg gutted for you Derren, 1 out π
Awwwwwwwwwwww! Try again!
wow… that sucks! missed it by one.. well at least we know it isn’t fixed!
Hey, scammer not so full of yourself now are you?
Just so you know I’m never watching your shows again scammer, that poor man thought he was gonna win 175k
Speak again ..never fraud.
You gave us a great show. Gutted for you but still amazed at how close you got.
The Events has been great and kept me entertained and scratching my head for the last month. Thanks and well done Derren and your hard working team!