Documentaries – from May 10th
Starting on May 10th, your blogger presents 3 documentaries on C4 under the title ‘Derren Brown Investigates‘ (a title I’m slightly unconvinced by but I couldn’t think of a better one). In each, I spend time with someone making paranormal claims, observing their world, looking at the weight of evidence for and against.
There are three documentaries: one with a British psychic medium, another with a ghosthunter from the US, and a third concerns a Russian system of human development that claims to ‘cure’ blindness. Each has quite a different feel.
I have approached these documentaries quite openly: as a magician, and someone steeped in the world of the paranormal, I would love to find something that I can’t explain. I remember a friend at University showing me an apparent demonstration of ‘Chi’ that got me giggly and excited for days: he folded a five pound note so that it could stand on its side on the table, then pointed his fingers at it rapidly, ‘willing’ it to move. It skittered across the table, and it did the same when I willed it to move too. When I didn’t want it to move, it didn’t. I was astounded, and it was only when I started showing it to other people that I realised (as did they, only more quickly than I did), that the movement was caused by the rapid air propulsion that accompanied the short, quick, two-handed pointing gesture. When I didn’t do it with ‘intention’ (as I was instructed) my movement was of course slacker and the note didn’t budge. I had been fooled (innocently, by someone who had clearly believed the ‘Chi’ explanation), and had fooled myself. Interestingly, it was probably because my friends knew me as a magician that they saw through it immediately: they were on the lookout for other possible explanations, and this mindset provided the correct answer pretty quickly. My desire to believe, and my sheer excitement at finding something that seemed to be ‘real’, had stopped me from taking a step back and reconsidering.
I approached each of these situations with a balance: of a hope to be convinced, and an understanding of how easily we can be duped. It was a fascinating journey. One curious point is the way that scepticism is absolutely seen as the enemy by many of these practitioners. Possibly this is a point of confusion on their part: scepticism is only about reserving judgement until the evidence is weighed, as opposed to cynicism, which is blinkered by pre-supposing falsehood. One would like to think that paranormal practitioners would have faith in their evidence and would then welcome a ‘sceptical’ approach. I think that most well-meaning practitioners, who genuinely believe that they have real evidence, do welcome such an approach. Many see some sort of intellectual rigour as an important component of discernment. Many welcome tests, others mock them (in the same way, I imagine, that many religious believers approach the question of God with a desire to understand intellectually the theological issues at hand, whereas others would find such things largely irrelevant to the question of living in their faith). Plenty of practitioners would call themselves ‘sceptical’, for to profess no scepticism at all is to suggest that one will simply believe anything.
As the spotlight falls on the importance of evidence, many people who mock believers imply that those who work with the ‘paranormal’ are not interested in the importance of evidence, as if it were something only the ‘rational’ side of the argument is capable of understanding. I think this is patronising and unfair. We all form our beliefs based on evidence and according to some private rationale: the question is more about the type of evidence being used. The ghost-hunter with whom I spent a week had a basement full of tens of thousands of spirit photographs and EVPs (audio recordings of ghosts). He knew what to look for to pick out a real one, or a fake, and knew when to reserve judgement. His life has centered around collecting evidence. Of course, someone else may put their hand up and say ‘But isn’t it all the same kind of evidence? Just a great collection?’ Here is an important difference between the way that a scientist and a believer classically approach evidence: the ‘true’ scientist tries to disprove what he believes, whereas the ‘true’ believer tends to look for evidence that confirms it. This allows us to be comfortable that the scientist’s conclusions are based on more solid ground.
If the scientific approach seems lifeless to many, that’s because the natural human tendency is to do the opposite and look for things that confirm what we already believe: it takes discipline to test against what we think might be true. There’s a great test where two groups of people are asked to interview person X one at a time to find out if he’s introvert,or extrovert, depending on the group. People routinely ask only questions that support what they’re looking for: the group checking for introversion ask ‘Do you like sitting at home reading?’, ‘Do you enjoy being on your own?’, whereas the group looking for extroversion ask questions like, ‘Do you like going to parties?’. The result? The first group come out deciding that yes, X is an introvert. The second group come out convinced the same person is an extrovert. It’s meaningless on both counts! Everyone has looked for confirmation and found it, within the complex personality of person X (which will contain both introvert and extrovert elements). No-one thinks of asking the only useful questions: the ones that test against what they think might be true. Only when the people looking for introversion start asking questions like, ‘Do you like going to parties?’, or when the ‘extrovert’ group ask to what extent X enjoys sitting at home reading, can they really start drawing a fair conclusion regarding his personality. Otherwise it’s a given they’ll just confirm what they already suspect is true. It’s called ‘confirmation bias’ and is something we all have hard-wired into us. It’s the shortest and most reliable way to finding meaningless but comforting evidence.
There is the Wason Card Problem, which works on a similar principle. Four cards are laid out in front of you, labeled A, B, 1, 2. It is suggested that ‘every card with a vowel on one side has an even number on the other side’. You have to see if this is true by flipping over as few cards as possible. Which ones do you turn over? Have a think.
Most people would flip over the even number 2 and the vowel A to see if it’s true. This seems to make sense, surely? But turning these cards does not give you the answer. By flipping over these two cards you are only looking for what you think is already true. And you don’t learn anything. To find out if it’s true, you have to try to disprove the statement. So you have to flip the A (to see if it has an even number) but then you have to flip the 1, because if this has a vowel on the other side you’ll know the statement is wrong. This is the counter-intuitive leap that people miss. They flip the 2 instead of the 1, even though nothing has been said about an even number having to have a vowel on the back. To find out if something is true, you have to look for the existence of contrary evidence, not just look for confirmation. Helpful evidence comes in the form of events that challenge and shake us: not in the endless things we can find to support what we already believe.
To be truly open minded is the equivalent of asking person X both the introvert and extrovert questions. The trouble is, when you’re dealing with areas of belief, it’s wearying and annoying to people to ask them questions which do not support their belief. Some find it downright offensive. It can feel rather like someone asking you for evidence that your partner does NOT love you, I’d imagine. It must seem like the worst sort of negative nit-picking, and not surprisingly leads to a frustrated cry of ‘Why over-analyse? Why can’t you just accept it?’ This is a (perfectly understandable) response from someone being asked endless questions they find annoyingly pedantic. But if you step out of the immediate personal situation, it is sometimes important to ask those questions. It would be stupid and annoying to be asked that about your partner if you had no reason to suspect that he or she didn’t love you, but it might be rather useful if you had every reason to suspect the relationship was a sham. Equally, a person might deeply hold the belief that he can fly, but it would make sense to make him look at evidence to the contrary before he jumps out of his bedroom window, regardless of how annoying such ‘nit-picking’ might be to him.
Likewise, it is sometimes important to ask questions that are going to seem nit-picky to practitioners of the paranormal. While a psychic undoubtedly brings huge comfort to many people, the picture is not always so rosy. Many clients get quite hooked on the process, often being charged more and more for private readings, and if it was the case that the psychic was a fraud, it would be worth knowing about. A friend of mine related that he went to see a psychic for many months as a teenager, with fees increasing from £40 to £150 a time (a huge amount for him to pay), and was one day asked to jot down some questions in a pad the psychic provided. He flipped the page and saw carbon paper a couple of pages down. Heartbroken but intrigued, he continued with the session, and later watched the psychic pretend to divine the information she was secretly reading from the carbon copy. This ploy may be unusually brazen, or quite common in that world, it’s impossible to quantify. In other cases a medium may be well-meaning but self-deluded and not really in touch with your relatives, or the ghost hunter may deeply but mistakenly believe that the symptoms of a person’s schizophrenia are demonic, or that night-terrors are caused by visiting spirits. Here it is trickier: is not ‘false’ hope still hope and ‘false’ comfort still comfort? Some take the hard line: rid the world of this rubbish and everyone will benefit. It can only ever be better to deal with the fact your loved ones are gone, than to believe false information. And what decent person decides that their lies are what people need to hear to feel better? I understand this reasoning, and I find it hard to argue against it. Perhaps it is just my indecisive nature, but something in its lack of sensitivity bothers me. I even understand where the harshness comes from: to be outspoken and sceptical is to relentlessly bang your head against a brick wall. The world will always prefer the emotional shiver of the paranormal to what seems like nit-picking from the rationalists, even though the science may point to a level of understanding of this world and each other far more fascinating than a psychic’s strange, loose pronouncements about distant realms.
The now well-known line ‘Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence’ should be a mantra for those interested in the paranormal: if I believe in Father Christmas and you do not, it is I that must come up with the evidence, not you. You do not need to prove that Father Christmas does not exist in order to fairly presume that he does not. Our beliefs are NOT equally weighted in terms of the need for evidence to back them up. The same goes for any paranormal or religious belief: if you expect your big claim to be taken seriously by the rest of the world, you will need big evidence. To provide flimsy evidence (normally based on confirmation bias) is not good enough, and to point at the non-believer and claim he’s just as ‘blinkered’ in his non-belief is nonsense: as daft as my accusation to you that you are blinkered in not believing in Father Christmas, and smugly pointing out that you can’t prove he doesn’t exist. It’s worth being clear on that: it’s up to those making the ‘supernatural’ or extraordinary claims to provide the evidence.
This, again, is balanced with my innate urge as a magician to discover real magic. I am approaching each of the subjects with a wish for it all to be true, and for my reservations to be proved ungrounded. ‘Show me the evidence, please convince me’, is my attitude: not because I am some arbiter of truth and falsehood, or that my opinion matters much in the world, but because I know how we can fake and be fooled, what level and type of evidence is needed, and because to many, these are deeply important matters.
True, I would hope that our loved ones in the Happy Summerland could be coaxed into imparting more useful insights than the fumbling non-sequiturs and platitudes they tend to offer through mediums, but how amazing if it could be, or was being, done for real. Or to really see a ghost: plenty of bright and solid people have tales of encounters, how wonderful that would be. I really don’t know what I would make of it. I imagine I would feel the excitement I felt as a student, at seeing a five pound note shoot across a table because I willed it to.
I love your thinking behind the difference between skepticism and cynicism. Great points and I’m looking forward to watching the shows.
Father Christmas IS real! hes tracked by satellite on his rounds every christmas eve!
Really looking forward to these documentaries! mostly the ghost one.
x
Good read, I am looking forward to your documentaries. Maybe some surprises…
I myself believe in telekenises; a science behind it with my own evidence.
But maybe I should look more into aspects of trying to prove it wrong…
Wow, what a most wonderfully worded blog posting, Derren. Brilliantly put.
Of course it’s true that evidence is always necessary to back-up any claim. Like with anything in life, you need proof.
My sister & husband lived in a haunted flat. They saw numerous sightings of the ghost of a lady who had died there previously in a fire. A lot of the time they chose not to share what they had seen apart, they waited until later in the day & ‘compared notes’ (always the same). I never liked the atmosphere in the flat myself, was cold & unwelcoming. But they have no evidence to support this. Just their word.
I saw a psychic once who said the words “to the believer no evidence is needed, to the non-believer no evidence is enough”. Not sure that’s entirely true, is it?
LC x
Oh and btw, am VERY much looking forward to watching these documentaries, Derren. The trailer for the first one looks brilliant!! 🙂
I hope to try and get my Mum to watch them cos she is a complete believer in all of this. Hopefully it may open her eyes a little bit……
Take care
LC x
Father Christmas couldn’t exist, as he could never go through that many national borders in one night with a huge sackful of undeclared toys with no export licence, passport or visa and eight unquaranteened reindeer without being busted at least 200 times over by international border control. You couldn’t do that journey in under 8 hours.
And that’s before we get to the suspect ‘snow’ residue on his collar. Either he doesn’t exist or he must’ve been arrested by now.
i can’t wait sure it will be as good as all your other shows, this kind of stuff really intrests me so i know i will love it.
sounds interesting (:
Nicely written insightful piece. You must have read some Nassim N Taleb – Fooled by Randomness etc? If not I highly encourage you to do so 🙂
Fantastic post, I’m really looking forward to these documentaries.
Teehee, “Derren Brown Investigates”. A perfectly good title I think…if a little ITV….
As ever Derren, the nail is hit on the head. I really look forward to this series – although I think people who believe in this stuff will never allow their minds to be changed, sadly. And so their hard-earned cash and/or grief may well still be squandered by charlatans.
I am sure this will be amazing. Something to cheer me up after the election results, maybe? 🙂
P.S. Please tell me that this mysterious “British psychic medium” is Derek Acorah! Scamming recently bereaved people out of money and dignity… tut tut.
Verrrrrrrrrry interesting indeed, and I shall be glued to the telly for those!
Came to last Thursday’s show at Woking by the way and it was fantastic – thanks so much Derren for a brilliant evening! x
Wonderful insight as ever. I hope a lot of people who are taken in by such claims watch! x
A thorough journal entry, full of useful logic and critical thinking. If any practitioner of psychic arts was able to reliably demonstrate and repeat their demonstration under test conditions, they would be eligible for James Randi’s $1million prize. Somehow, no one quite thinks through your logical processes above thoroughly enough in order to claim it. I shall watch the documentaries with interest.
A nicely long read – and very helpful for my upcoming homework (gonna do a persuasive presentation against psychics, astrologers & so on). Thank you for the thoughts shared.
And my feet are now starting to quiver excitedly, waiting for the new watchinings (the new DVD release as well!)
I keep re-reading one sentence, and I would like it to be the case, would like it to be true:
“It’s up to those making the ’supernatural’ or extraordinary claims to provide the evidence.”
I nod, I say OF COURSE. And then I frown – and I don’t know why. I might overgeneralize, might apply this to a way to broad context… Maybe it’s BECAUSE I quote it out of context that it doesn’t apply… : if the Catholic girl next door says JESUS IS EVIDENCE… – – – My mind goes into a circle.
Yes.
Yes, it is up to those making the big claim to provide the big evidence.
What the word “evidence” actually refers to – is another story.
A very good read, Mr. Brown. Well-rounded. Thank you.
The trailer for this looks really interesting, and I like how when you’d asked him if he was a fraud he got really defensive and angry about name calling.
The link from Philis’ twitter for anyone interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqLJhW9RKiE
Just watched a short vid on TED.com from James Randi about this stuff, great!
Looking forward to it Derren as I can show the kids in school it and get them while they’re young!
Convincing adults is harder!
Best of luck with it!
How about ‘Derren Brown – Godless’! :o)
Rob.
well, ya coulda called it “a magician among the spirits”. HAHA!
Vary nice Mr Brown.
Do you also find it interesting that the people who believe in mediumship can’t seep to grasp the difference between the two options of ‘yes there is an afterlife and no we can’t talk to the dead’ and ‘yes there is an afterlife and yes we can talk to the dead’ the third of course being there is no afterlife. From my experience with speaking to ‘mediums’ they only see the options of ‘yes there is an afterlife and yes we can talk to the dead’ and no afterlife at all.(I will admit this is from my own anecdotal experience from specking to medium in the south bay of LA, California.)
And also How many people go back and recheck that the original tellers of a ghost story still believe there own story. In my early teen I had a ‘demon’ experience I woke up in the night to blood red eyes at the end of my bed, in the same spot I had been playing with a home made Ouija board and pushing it to freak out this girl. We were moving to there was nothing at all on the shelves of that wall. I could not find an explanation other than a supernatural one… till about 3 months ago. I was setting up new shelves and left the room for dinner. When I came back and just before I turned on the lights I saw those red eyes…it was my cat sit on the empty shelf I discovered when I got the nirve to turn the light on. I have had cats as pets since I was 4.
(con)
(con)
I had told my demon story for 16 years. No one one ever re-asked me if I still believed My father was the only one to ever question if the explanation was true. (His stance was he could not disprove it, but there was not enough evidence to prove it.) I will bet you my story is still being told, and with no one questing how will it be stopped.
I reckon Derren should investigate this guy who went on about ‘deep maths’ to predict the lottery numbers.
– OH YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! – Phillis
You echo my viewpoint almost exactly.
Most modern technology is ‘magical’. Magic is often ‘an effect I cannot understand, one I did not expect or predict’. As soon as it is normal and understood, it ceases to be magic. Just like revealing the workings of a trick. So no magic is ever possible, except as a trick. (Like D. O’Briain said about alternative medicine – when proved it becomes ‘just medicine’).
If there is an afterlife, and physicists develop a technique for communicating across the divide, it could no longer be mysterious.
“Dad, it’s the phone”
“Which one? it’s not grandma again, is it? Wish they’d never invented that bloody thing…”
You really write beautifully. Can’t express my point in 800 characters. Not as eloquent.
You make an excellent point about how it can be seen as ‘patronizing and unfair’ when people who, self-proclaim I might add, that they are rational and therefore are the only people who can think ‘correctly’.
Imagine a high-school science teacher who bitterly points out every mistake a religious but genuinely curious student makes in class, just because he/she is raising his/her hand with what we might see as ‘stupid questions’, completely ignoring the idea that asking questions is already a big step forward. That student may indeed see science as mean and uninteresting and perhaps lose interest and cling to the comfort the faith offers. ‘New-Athiests/Skeptics’ take note: Richard Dawkins would not approve of this kind of intellectual bullying when teaching the wonders of science.
(Sorry for double post but I really want this last point in: )
Just because you are the classroom-nerd-know-it-all doesn’t mean your knowledge will shield you from your inability to be socially and educationally appealing.
”:as daft as my accusation to you that you are blinkered in not believing in Father Christmas, and smugly pointing out that you can’t prove he doesn’t exist”…..Touché 😉
Brilliantly worded, Truly fascinating xx
Wait a sec, are you forming some kind Buffy style Scooby Gang? If so where do I sign up!
There are common threads that run through all beliefs that stand in contrast to verifiable, repeatable evidence. They are easier to spot within fringe systems. What would happen if we were to bend them backward into support of rationalism?
I do believe .. in the power of the mind. Imagine .. the mind’s powers .. they keep boosting the body … to the max at times .. imagine that power outside the body .. you no longer in control .. Is it only the other mind that is registratin that what shoots out of your .. let’s say .. eyes/mouth/fist via eyes, ears .. body .. or is there a faster interaction .. as some think it might be in the womb in a foetus ..
Psychoses .. polter geists .. ghosts … What is truth? That what we cling on to to keep the world (the world we created) running the way it is. Can we live without believing? Nope, we can’t. We do believe in the world most of us have accepted as the normal world. We have no real choice. Different worlds don’t combine so well. Having two worlds inside can work ..
i went to see derek acorah recently and everyone there looked like they should be in jeremy kyles audience, except me obvs
Great piece. It is always a problem proving something that is statistically significant at 0.05. I’m working on it with my necklace predicting babies sexes. 8/8 so far. Another 87 right out of 100 and I’ll publish. The trouble is I’m not sure these things fit with science enough of the time to ever be proven scientifically true.
Great read and oh, I do agree with you about a lack of sensitivity being quite bothering, Mr. Brown!
To clarify I do think that making people believe that you can actually connect with the person they’ve just lost so you can take their money is simply cruel but then again I can’t see the real reason (other then self-righteousness) for crushing their hope for their close ones being somehow present in their life. And I’ve seen people doing that quite a lot while the idea itself as long as it doesn’t turn to some kind of obsession seems quite harmless to me and if it makes the whole tragedy easier for them… shouldn’t we just let them have at least that?
Just accept my application to be on the show, mess with my head in a darkened room and then afterwards we can chat (however briefly) about life, art and magic. Please. Go on.
Love the point about scepticism versus cynicism. Very true.
Also, confirmation bias and statistical analysis should be taught in schools.
Just the basics.
I think that the biggest question has yet to be answered.
Why are all mediums gay?
And don’t give me any of that Derek Acorah is married rubbish.
Before you all say it, I know Derren is gay too. I was just wondering and I feel it is important.
Stephen
Derren,
Easily one of the most elegant pieces of writing that I have had the pleasure in reading in some time. I myself would love some day to be convinced by some of the beliefs that fascinate me so much but until then I shall have to be content with quietly respecting, studying and questioning.Many years ago it was predicted that modernization would force the gods into retirement allowing human beings to behave rationally no longer shackled to the supernatural.I doubt this day shall come and I hope that it does not because what a sad world it would be. What has been achieved though is the ability for such beliefs to be questioned,and rightly so and therefore as always I cannot wait for the new show, guaranteed intellect, talent, wit and great suits! us lady’s are gutted Mr Brown…
Wow Derren I can’t wait to see these as I too am very sceptical when it comes to things like this. I do get spooked at certain things but then I always try and rationalise it. I don’t believe in ghosts but I ever saw one or evidence of it then like you I would believe it. So very much looking forward to them 🙂 x
This is way too intelligent for me, it hurts my brain, doh x
if its half as good as ‘Father Dowling Investigates’ then I’ll be happy
Really looking forward to seeing these documentaries Derren and thank you so much for such an interesting post….you’ve got me thinking that’s for sure lol
Great post, many useful insights as usual. These posts are the reason I keep coming back to this web site. Thank you.
So soon after wishing, on another thread, that you would be on tv more – you announce a new show starting soon.
I wish you would send me all your money.
Question everything. It’s how we learn. Belief is a tricky one. I was once told by a ‘Grown up’ in Sunday school that the world was created in 7 days. I sat there, listened, & couldn’t rationalise this because other ‘Grown ups’ had taught me otherwise. So I put my hand up & said ‘How is this possible?’ He couldn’t answer my question. I remember the irritated look on his face. Sufficed to say I stopped going. I then learned other ‘Grown up’ stories about Ghosts, ESP Etc Etc, although fascinated, I declared ‘I can’t believe that, till I see for myself’. I then ‘Grew Up’ & low behold, I beheld. This left me with more questions, & the thought that ‘If ‘Grown Ups’ have taught me all that I am now aware of, how can I possibly believe anything’. So the questions continued…
And the theories continued. All in all, questioning is all I have, the rest is just the thoughts, feelings, opinions, & beliefs of others. I left experience out, because anothers experience to me is exactly those things, so all I can do is question them. What I have learned is that once you begin to take on the thoughts & opinions of others, your perspective is no longer your own.
I’m looking forward to watching the thoughts, opinions, feelings & beliefs of these ‘Grown ups’ in May. I do love a good bedtime story. 😉
I have thought Mr Brown before, that by being dismissive, you really are seeking some understanding of something more. One day, maybe it’ll find you if you’re open to it.
Mr. Brown made the extraordinary claim that he could predict the lottery. Then he provided the extraordinary evidence by actually doing it. It is hard to tell whether or not something is evidence is it not?
– Apart from when someone tells you it’s a trick in the first place? – Phillis
About the A B 1 2 card test, there is a flaw – which is the outcome. You’re trying to prove that cards with an even number DO have a vowel on the otherside, which is a confirmation test – which requires doing an IF X then Y test. By flipping A and 1, you’re not disproving the statement – you’re proving or disproving that odd numbers CAN have a vowel on the other side, this doesn’t prove whether or not vowels and even numbers *aways* come together – which is what the test was asking for.
What turning over 1 does is it asks the question of whether IF X then Y is an important statement, or whether a similar statement can be made about the odd numbers and the statement is generally meaningless.
Rob: Very true on the tech magic thing. My dad has always marveled at the fact that his mom managed to drive a car without knowing — or WANTING to know — how the mechanics of it work. As a result, while I do not drive a car, I have a pretty good understanding of why it does what it does. 😛
I like the way he raised me. Ask, ask, ask and FIND OUT how things work (unless keeping the mystery is preferable, as with magic — well as far as he’s concerned 😛 ). That way, the world makes a LOT more sense.
I’d also like to pull the correlation != causality argument out of the bed. We have a very small sample size, just because our findings currently put there to be a correlation between WHEN EVEN = TRUE then VOWEL = TRUE, that doesn’t prove that having an even number is the cause of a vowel appearing. As you proved with the coin tossing test – you take a large enough sample and you’ll find however many vowel/even number examples in a row as you want.
…admittedly, regarding my first comment, if you’re testing [ IF VOWEL = TRUE then EVEN = TRUE ] AND [ IF EVEN = TRUE then VOWEL = TRUE ] so that you’re testing the reverse as well as former, then naturally turning over 1 would disprove the above statement. Also, apologies for simmering down the whole thing to a syntax that more suits a computer argument, but I find it’s much easier to express that sort of argument in those terms as it means you dont’ mince words.