Testing psychics
I thought I would pen a few words about the high-profile test offered to Sally Morgan by Simon Singh, Chris French and the Merseyside Skeptics tomorrow Monday. It looks like Sally has declined to take part, but their offer is open to conduct a fair test or at least discuss the test with her to make sure both they and her are happy with it.
Simon Singh, along with other sceptics, has had concerns about Sally and published them here on his blog. I add, as does he, that I am not saying that Sally is a fake or a fraud. I’d really like to think that she’s not, but reserve all judgement. I don’t know her and have never seen her show, on TV or on stage. Even if I had, my opinion about her would mean very little, and I’m sure she could give a flying doughnut about what I had to say. Really the only worthwhile point is whether claims such as Sally’s stand up to testing, not what I or any other individual with our own inevitable prejudices happens to think.
Until recently, I thought I had never met her, but I have since heard rather excitingly that I may have filmed an unused sequence with Sally once at her home. If I did, it would have been for one of those old Mind Control specials ten or so years ago. I have my team looking into that to see if we ever did and if they can dig it out. Certainly we filmed with one lady psychic at her house, where we each gave each other a reading, so perhaps that was it.
Sally has recently received mixed media attention following a phone call to a radio station made by a lady who had attended her show in Dublin, who said she heard what sounded like verbal cues being given to the medium on stage. Apparently she heard phrases like ‘Dave – bad back’ being whispered from the lighting booth at the back of the auditorium a few seconds before Sally repeated those words on stage, raising the strong suspicion in this woman’s mind that Sally was using an earpiece. If this were true, it would follow that the assistant in the booth had most likely picked up information in the foyer where people were openly discussing what they were hoping to hear that night. The phone call can be heard here and is worth listening to in full. Sally has since denied the insinuations, saying that it was simply lighting technicians chatting, although to me this doesn’t seem to answer the question of why she was delivering lines moments after they were heard coming from the booth.
Frustratingly for Sally, her explanation may of course be fair. To be honest, if I were a fake psychic and wanted to use an earpiece to receive my cues, I wouldn’t put my assistant in the lighting booth where in-house staff would normally work. There would be the advantage of receiving visual cues, but my preference would be to tuck him away safely backstage somewhere. Unless, that is, I was supplying all the crew for the show, in which case it wouldn’t be an issue. Sally may well supply all her crew, I have no idea. (Note: Thanks ‘Chez’, I hear the theatre in question would have indeed required Sally to bring all her own crew) But I have heard from in-house theatre crews who have hosted big-name psychic shows that they were surprised to see the shows follow a fairly tight structure and an oddly similar script every night: therefore another possible explanation could be that the whispering was indeed cheekiness from the lighting technicians who were just pre-empting what they knew was coming next, having seen the show so many times. Who knows. Maybe both they and Sally are genuinely psychic and they should all have their own shows.
Point is, this could be a totally innocent incident which has gotten out of hand. Once you’re aware of the huge amount of fraudulence committed in the name of mediumship, it’s hard not to smirk when someone seems to have been caught out. If you watched ‘Miracles For Sale’, you may remember the ‘healer’ Peter Popoff getting caught out rather splendidly with an earpiece by James Randi: this is astonishing footage. Irrespective of whether to not Sally was using the earpiece, she has made a name for herself and made a lucrative business from the seemingly astonishing business of connecting people with their loved ones, so some scrutiny is important. If a psychic were simply a doctor – and arguably mediums and psychics involve themselves with their clients in a similarly personal and delicate way – then you’d want to know that he or she had passed her medical exams. We even like to check the credentials of a plumber. Surely the bigger and more amazing the claims being made, the more solid the evidence needs to be for them to hold up, and the more important that evidence is.
Sally may be a perfectly innocent victim of unfortunate tar-brushing. If she is a real stage psychic, she finds herself in bad company. Doris Stokes, her antecedent that most immediately springs to mind, has, since herself passing over to the Happy Summerland, been exposed on a number of counts. She would enter a town with her sell-out show to a flurry of mail from desperate people giving her all the information she’d need for a full evening show. She would, I heard, give readings during the day for people, and then invite them to the show in the evening and feed back, from the stage, the information she’d learnt from them during the day. A woman I once knew who had lost her son in a drowning accident was asked to come along to an event given by  Stokes and receive a message from the spirit of her child, and was furious to have her tragedy exploited and twisted when the the rosy-cheeked, grandmotherly medium simply trotted out the details of the death as reported in the local newspaper and used this woman as a sure-fire hit after a couple of dud readings. Other mediums, very much alive and well, are watched nightly by in-house stage crews who then delight in passing on their apparent modi operandi when I turn up with my show. One very big name psychic was caught ushering in a couple of stooges through a side entrance – self-evidently, I was told, his mother and a friend of hers – who then became his most enthusiastic audience members during the show.
Hence it would be a very good idea to test a psychic who claims to be real and to not be like all those nasty, manipulative frauds, who prey on the guaranteed paying audiences of vulnerable people who know no better. But who will call for such testing? Not the audiences. Ironically, they’re the last to insist that we check that the medium on stage before them is real, and not self-deluded or lying through her teeth. And why should they? Who would risk denying oneself profound comfort? Instead, to them, their psychic is the real one, those others are the fakes, and they know that because… because they just know it. Because they’ve seen the show and they think the show is the evidence. They most likely are unaware of the self-working technique of Cold Reading which can allow anyone with little sense of morality to get up on stage and carry off a perfectly convincing psychic show. Here’s a page where you can learn how to be a fake psychic yourself – its one of the oldest businesses in the world. Add some benign, trustworthy charisma, a bit of ‘hot’ reading (where you have some information on your punters) and some decent PR,  and you have got yourself a world class show. Many people might think you’re a fake, but you will be guaranteed to sell-out theatres across the country with people who will defend you to the grave and goodness me, it’s good business. In fact I sometimes wonder if the main reason why people would rather believe a psychic is genuine might be because the implications of it being a lie – of that person, for reasons of ego and renumeration, happily getting up on stage and trampling over the lives of people who know no better – is so ugly that it’s preferable to give them the benefit of the doubt.
So I hope Sally isn’t like those people. And there’s no way of knowing without a test. For those who say they’ve seen her and have all the proof they need, then that’s great for them, but her show is not the test, it’s the very thing we’d need to test. If the magician David Copperfield went mad and claimed to really be sawing a woman in half, and you wanted to see if he was just using trickery, it would make no sense to say ‘I know he’s real, I’ve seen the show and he really saws that woman in half’. Instead you’d have to take what he does out of a show environment and see if he can still do it when other explanations have been removed. For example, if on stage the woman has to be first placed in a special box or on a special table, can he do it without the box and on any table? If not then maybe it’s something to do with the box or the table. Can he do it with any woman? With any blades? You get the idea. We’d have to put aside our emotions (the ones that want us to believe he’s real or fake regardless of testing) and base our new beliefs on the outcome of the test. Of course in this imaginary scenario where he is claiming to have real magic powers, Copperfield would know he’d never stand up to this sort of examination and would most do anything to decline the test.
You’d think psychics would be very eager to prove they can really do it. There’s a million dollar prize fund to be won by any psychic who can show under reasonable and controlled conditions (which they can decide upon in conjunction with the scientists) that what they do is real. This is money that could be kept or given to charity of course, not to mention the likelihood of also receiving a Nobel prize and the ability to give the world vital new knowledge that would change us forever. Imagine that! If I woke up to find that I could really do it, I’d be a selfish and odd creature to offer it only to TV viewers and theatre audiences. I’d be out there, doing every test I could until the scientific establishment sat up and listened. You’d be forgiven for doubting my sincerity if I said I had better things to do.
Sally Morgan has said she does have better things to do, which may be true, but if she’s real it’s a shame to deny the world the first psychic to have been able to prove herself. Sadly no psychic or medium to this point has ever been able to do so. The test is based on asking her to reproduce the phenomena she produces in her show, but importantly the scientists have invited her to discuss the test if she feels any aspect of it should be changed. Some entertaining correspondence on the subject between her lawyer and Simon Singh can be read here.
I imagine Sally will decline the test, and people will draw their own conclusions. I can’t imagine this will make any difference to her fan base or indeed to her. She may be seen by that minority as somehow gloriously ‘rising above’ the test and the ‘haters’ and the ‘sceptics’. Usually when people say this they mean ‘cynics’ rather than ‘sceptics’ as the former is negative and the latter is neutral. A sceptic reserves judgement until the evidence is in. A sceptic or a scientist should never be a ‘hater’ – he or she just feels that a suitable test is a way of finding truth rather than unreliable anecdote or a stage show where any cheating could be going on. The pre-determined negative views of cynics and ‘haters’, meanwhile, are as blind and irrelevant to the discussion as those of ardent, true-believing fans.
Another term that gets abused is ‘open-minded’. There’s being open-minded and there’s being so open minded that your brain falls out. Ian Rowland, the author of ‘The Full Facts Book of Cold-Reading’ (an excellent guide on faking these skills) gives an example. Suppose you are a chef, cooking soup for two hundred diners. You say to yourself ‘Well, I know if I put arsenic in this soup it’ll kill everyone. But hey! Gotta be open-minded!’ And you go ahead and add the deadly metalloid to the goats’ cheese crostini and float it atop the watercress and mint broth. Are you being open-minded or… just ignoring important information? In life we can only work with the best information we have to go on. We know that poison kills people so we don’t add it to our soups. We know that gravity works so we don’t jump out of windows unless we want to kiss a cruel world goodbye. Likewise when we know that psychic ability can be very easily faked – particularly on stage where the size of the audience can help enormously – it is not ‘open-minded’ to ignore that fact and keep believing without real evidence. Sadly, however, the methods of the fraudsters are not so well-known, which is why I spend some of my time trying to bring them out into the open. It is not being ‘closed-minded’ to want to put these people to the test or be wary of a psychic’s claims. It’s the best use of available knowledge in a world where we know how it can be faked and where vulnerable people are being asked to pay for the promise of something supernatural, with no firm evidence to back it up.
Most of you, as readers of this blog, will know all of this of course. Others won’t, and will just feel annoyance towards the scientists offering the test (‘Who the hell are you to test our Sally? Leave her alone, it’s nothing to do with you’). So it’s always worth saying why it’s really important to check carefully when these sorts of claims are being made. Meanwhile, brace yourselves: Sally may decide to show the world tomorrow that she can really do it, and the course of human knowledge will take a sudden swerve to the left. We can look forward to her and other verified psychics working with governments and scientists and finally, perhaps, these proven individuals can engage with the forces of the departed in order to advance our race, help us find peace amongst ourselves and understand the nature of eternity, rather than merely pass on bland condolences or upsetting revelations from the Other Side.
Or maybe she’ll have better things to do.
D.
Very good point about how much it would change things if she was a ‘real’ psychic. Why wouldn’t you want to prove yourself?
OK, I am a medium and I would love to be tested and I have asked Derren before – so, please get in touch and let’s get on with it! I would go to the states for the million dollar test, but can’t afford to get there.
Sally Morgan is an evil woman 🙂
I don’t quite get why they target mediums. Recently JREF dressed a bunch of people up as zombies and went to try get Van Praagh to take the test and posted the videos thinking they are oh so hilarious. Why is it they do not dress up a bunch of people as Mohammed and march on a mosque demanding the Imam prove prayer works? Why are they not lobbying for the abolition of Judaism until such a time a Rabbi can show there is a god and he does care what you do?
It is all too easy to attack fringe people and ignore the elephant in the room who offer the same service: solace at a premium. JREF for me just smacks of cowardice and I find their tactics deplorable. I don’t believe in psychics nor hassling then for proof which they obviously won’t provide. Makes me wonder what’s in it for the sceptics
Derren, I really enjoyed the write up on Sally. Although having always believed in the supernatural and been witness to things that I simply can’t explain, I do believe Sally is simply another Dereck Akora crock of pants. It’s all about the money and status with Sally unfortunately, like when she claims to have predicted Princess Diana’s death and said she saw the crash and the queens arm was hanging out of the car. Wrong, Diana wasn’t the queen though and if she did see it why didn’t she inform people and try to channel more information in order to try and prevent it. We follow you a lot Derren, you are very interesting and love you outing Sally. She won’t do the experiment, we all know that. Great read, keep them up. Cheers.
Austraila is running a gameshow called ‘the One’ – the search for Australia’s best psychic. They give them various tests (eg. Match up the couples from the audience, or find the car with the red handbag inside). Its hilarious watching them mess up and then justify the reasons why.. (eg. I’ve a bad habit of listening to my conscious mind) – unfortunately it is meant to be serious, and is cut to show the psychics in the best light possible.
A quite astonishingly well-written and thought-provoking blog piece, Derren. I found your post very well balanced and of the issue at hand, not unduly biased either way.
Having seen psychics perform (very well-known ones too), and been a total believer in the past, it saddens me to learn that there are people out there, whoever they may be, that profit financially through the grief or loss that someone else has experienced. It’s just so horrible to think about.
Like you, I’d be overjoyed if just one person could prove beyond all doubt that they have some sort of psychic power. Think of the endless possibilities that this could lead to (murder investigations etc).
But alas, I have a feeling we could all be in for a long wait…..
LC x
Beautifully constructed argument. I love you, Derren Brown.
Well, at the end of the day. The information is out there that people should know by now that mediums is pretty much all BS.
I understand the desperate and the need to want something so much that you will do anything to hear someone say – yes your XXXXX is looking down at you and is happy.
But come on, there has to be a line between letting the people who part with their money part with it. It is just good marketing on their part. Marketing is what everything is about now a days, no matter how crap the product is.
totally agree with this comment rig it so the whole crowd dosent cooperate and see how physic she really is
DO IT DERREN!!
She won’t give up that high-paying job until she is undeniably shown to be a fraud. She will cling on with every ounce of her being, its her livelihood, her team will utilize every PR trick in the book, their jobs are at risk too. She won’t let go until she is beaten down with straight up evidence. There needs to be an Oceans Eleven style con, where a team of misfits in costumes infiltrate one of her shows and get to the bottom of everything. Hey, that would make a good special
If anyone is interested in the history of mediumship, I would encourage them to read Harry Houdini’s, “A Magician Among the Spirits” or ” The Miracle Mongers, an Exposé” (available as an ebook, http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/435).
Houdini is sensitive to those who seek out physics, but critical of the “human vultures” prey on them. It’s amazing what became of two girls fooling their mum.
Excellent…
I can not remember a time when I ever believed in Santa. Or the tooth fairy. I don’t believe these fictions ever held any sway in my head.
Visiting Winchester Cathedral to take photographs (say what you like about religions, and I do, they knocked up some impressive buildings) a lady walked up to my friend and asked, “Are you a fireman?”. He’d just retired from the service and it freaked him out. I didn’t bother telling him that he was a published underwater photographer with his background quite exposed regularly in magazines. After all she didn’t ask me if I were a, well, whatever I am.
I don’t understand why Morgan’s “abilities” are even debatable, it’s not possible (until proven otherwise). If a judge gave her any credibility in a libel case he doesn’t deserve his position.
I couldn’t be as nice as Derren in this article. As others have said – she will never comply, even in response to nicely worded articles like this. She is making too much money to risk it all. But then, I’m sure people would still continue to believe her even if she failed! There is no possible way it can be true anyway.
Ultimately, if looks like a piranha, moves lime a piranha, and smells like a piranha – I wouldn’t dangle my testicles in the water.
My breath is not being held that for certain.
Excellent article Derren.
Well articulated and I sit before you chastened, falling as I did into category of cynic rather than sceptic. In the chaos of ensuing thoughts the words ‘comfort’ (as in that which some may derive from the offerings of Sally & her ilk) and ‘exploitation’ (as in the remarkably lucrative business she seems to have conjured out of it) jiggle about together awkwardly. A little more thought may be required to resolve this conflict.
Sally Morgan always seems to get very defensive whenever anyone quesions her abilities, e.g. I remember reading a newspaper article once where she complained about people at parties trying to put her to the test when they found out she works as a medium & said she tries to embarass them by revealing personal details (such as them receiving an intimate medical examination recently). And yet surely anyone who offers a service for money should not only accept but expect to have to offer some kind of proof of their abilities. No one made her charge for her alleged services. Sadly, believers seem to fall back on the same few excuses: it’s not possible to test mediums, it’s just a matter of belief, what’s the harm if they bring comfort etc. Meanwhile, the Sally Morgans continue to make money.
@Derinda: If you are confident of your ability, surely you’ll find the money somehow. The cost would represent less than 0.1% of your potential winnings.
Great article. I think it’s true, they are fake – mostly because they’re making show and get money from people and that they think they have this ability.
Those people are frauds to me.On the other hand – I’m catholic and I believe that some people can “heal”, because God give them like this persmission to do so. But even though, if they are true – then they would never ask for money or claim they have this ability in them. People like these that I’ve seen in m life are very humble, don’t really want to be public. They say aways that God is healing not they. The fact that they don’t want nothing in return is relevant to me, but it doesn’t have to be for sceptics and I can understand it. People who were healed stay healed to this day and they got medical documents for it. Works for me.
Fraac says
Fraac,
To what end? Well not “people getting it wrong and having to be correctedâ€. Its about fighting for evidence to matter. That leads to societies where science is valued and can help make you live longer and keep your friends/family safe and well. There is a link. If you had a friend who was being exploited for some kind of gain by another, would you not try to tell them? Does honesty not matter in any of these realities, your or mine?
Hi Derren,
Great post and I hope you find some juicy footage. Loved the stuff with Joe Powers.
I’ve put my own thoughts on Sally and the test up at my website, see: http://www.svengalimagic.com/2011/10/31/is-sally-morgan-a-fake/
ideally any psychic would have agreed to do a test involving the dead on this day, halloween, when the wall between the worlds is at its thinnest.
BOO!
LH&S, roz
“I am now regarded as one of the most accurate psychics in the world.â€
That sounds very relative to me. Is that like being the most practical chocolate teapot?
Agree with Stevie (31/10 9:20AM), I don’t think I could reserve my personal judgement of people like Sally Morgan quite as well as Derren has done here. And quite rightly so, it would be unfair for a public figure to jump into the fray and start denouncing her as a fraudulent leech who rips off the vulnerable for her own twisted financial gain… which by the way, is my own personal opinion until proven otherwise.
A well balanced post showing an impressive amount of restraint!
A very fair and balanced article. It’s not a witch hunt, rather an unbiased seeking of the truth. This is the basis upon which all of James Randi’s tests have been based upon. A very good account Derren.
Thoroughly enjoyed reading this article! Even the bits straight from your book 😉
Also thought you would like to know that my Halloween costume was one of the audience members from The Gameshow; more frightened children I have never seen!
It would be amazing if she were proven to be genuine, but personally I don’t think it likely.
Honor x
I do understand why Derren brown cant says that she is a fake or a fraud, but I can…she is a Fake and a fraud.
i dont have any money for her to sue me for 🙂
Of all the billions of dead humans… really, don’t be ridiculous. There are only two kinds of psychic – dishonest and deluded.
As the great Nobel Prize winning physicist said, the easiest person to fool is oneself. Meaning, we should take steps to differentiate what we want to believe from what really is. And we do that by critical thinking and demands for unequivocal evidence. Not by appeals to emotion and popularity polls. You see, it doesn’t matter if 6 billion people believe the Earth is flat, that homeopathy is medicine or there are such people as psychics. Irrespective of the honesty of the opinion holder all three assertions are manifestly false, even though each in its time has been a popular delusion
@Rory You say mediums are fake yet you believe in the ‘miracles’ of your ancient Catholic religion. Throughout history there have been fake holy men who use tricks to increase their flock. True they don’t always ask for money but mostly people do feel obliged to give a ‘tip’ especially if (by chance) some miracle occurs . Some people make these claims just to feel important or special. We all know what an ego boost feels like when you fool a group of friends with a magic trick at a party and everyone hassles you for the secret.
I once did a ‘spoof’ tarot reading to a friend who was totally convinced I was psychic and I was really tempted to play along when she recommended me to some of her friends.
Oh, and please, don’t say perhaps I really am chosen by God.
After reading the immense Trick of the Mind, science and religion has never been so captivating. The way in which “mediums” and “psychics” connect with their subject has in no way the same showmanship that Derren possesses. For some strange reason or another, Firefox has presented a red, squiggly line underneath Derren’s name, yet God appears fine, probably an upheaval crescendo of Sally retaliating to the test.
Personally, I feel she is too busy playing with a Ouija board with our new friend “Toby” from Paranormal Activity 3. Besides all this nonsense, I think Derren should be applauded as not only one of the greatest entertainers of our times, but as a great writer. Blogs like these thrive upon the comments of loyal fans and glory hunting haters and most of all, the scrutinizing press.
I’m so pleased you are outing these fake mediums ..I was a theatre reviewer for 15 yrs and had the misfortune to have to cover Derek Acorah etc and was bombarded with vile emails from idiots who were happy to pay a huge amount of money for absolutely random statements on stage and some quite obviously gleamed from the deaths columns in local papers ..when will people wake up to these fakes..
I recommend people seek out the Penn and Teller B*llsh*t episode about mediums (or is media the correct plural?), I think it was the first episode in the series. They show all the tricks that fake psychics use to con their audience. Come back Houdini, the world needs you more than ever!!
“Maybe it’s the implied idea that there’s an objective reality and some people are ‘getting it wrong’ and have to be corrected.”
No matter what reality is like, of course it’s there. Saying that there isn’t an objective reality contradicts itself.
Great comment Derren. As always (except when you make fun of vegans!) you’re diplomatic, frank and fair all at once.
I have one question though. In Svengali you claim that participants’ failure to blindly organise numbered cubes into the desired arrangement is proof that psychic powers don’t exist. You do this knowing full well that the cubes are truly ordered not by the participants but by you (I won’t reveal how). Is this any better than the frauds who claim that psychic powers *do* exist based on similar trickery? You’re both providing falsified evidence.
The thing I liked about Derren’s shows is that they are conjuring/psychological tricks brought up to date with a great presentation (and interesting angle for misdirection). I find this debate about fake psychics and mediums all very old fashioned and tedious. I hope constantly bringing up a tired subject that for many people has no interest or relevance to them does not cause Derren to end up like a lot of old style magicians. The darker material Derren does is good and his new shows are great (although the Assassin had a little too much similarity to The Heist for my liking) but keep it modern, fresh and cutting edge and maybe try to avoid old fashioned stereotypical subjects or perhaps people will turn off and end up watching Dynamo ! 🙂
The last person I knew who used a high pitched voice when performing,
to cover up how bad they were was Joe Pasquale.
Nuff said I think
P.S. I don’t believe in any Psychics anymore due to the opinon of the mighty Derren.
They should test the idiots that go to see these kind of people.
It is a serious lack of imagination to think that the next life will be just like this one and that the dead who inhabit it have nothing better to do than to sit round blogging with mediums living in this one. Although if the spelling and gramma of many bloggers (including me) and my crappy internet connection are anything to go by, it might explain the very cryptic messages been recieved from the dead.
I personally believe that life is eternal as energy never dies it just changes form and in the next life I will be pebble and have nothing to do and all day, every day, to do it in. (If not a pebble then maybe a free floating mass of energey the size of a walnut with the capacity of 3 solar systems – help I am loosing it)
Sally knew she would be exposed
Derinda: If you’re interested in the JREF test, you don’t need to head off to the US quite yet. If you’ve passed the media presence requirement and have an affidavit from an expert convinced of your powers, you can contact the JREF and they’ll arrange a preliminary test by a skeptics’ society in your own country. Only if you pass that test (and as far as I know, nobody has so far) will you need to go to the JREF headquarters in the US for the actual test.
Derren what an interresting read. I come from a family that use to have hush hush talks (mainly older females) about psychics, mediums & secrect seances in thier homes streaching back atlest 50 + years to my grandparents & their parents.As a child given strange rings to wear & tarot cards (1st ever reading strangly true!!) given to me. So I guess you could say it’s sort of in my blood. I have my self have had many experiances of seeing spirits or ghost very close up (2 feet away!) both in my homes, out & about & at work places. Do that make me a Psychic? No, im a sceptic I don’t beleave anything to I see it! I even have problems watching your shows & you admit to what you do(i shout at u)! I don’t watch Sally’s show as i think it’s a load of rubbish & people like her such as Derreck Accora
I think Sally, Derreck Accora and other so called Psychics like them should all be tested, but we know thats never going to happen because they will never do it & cos they will lose face & more importantly money when their are proven wrong!
What an excellent and elegant diseection of the issues. No more than we have come to expect from Derren of course! Marvellous fellow!
However, I must take against part of the thesis. I believe it is perfectly proper and correct to despise these people. We must be beyond the stage where we truly expect any of these people to genuinely back up their claims. Further, when we know that Popoff used an earpiece, and Morgan even admitted to this when found out, and we know Colin Fry has two hearing aids, then we know that this lot are definitely frauds, even if the final evidence is not in. The proof is in the fact thay will not subject themselves to anything even vaguely approaching a real test.
Following on from last comment. I do hate the showbiz frauds like Acorah, Morgan, Fry, Edwards etc etc etc etc, who rip off old grannies and vulnerable people, knowingly! What’s wrong with a bit of hatred of the fraudsters?
So, Derren, keep up the good work, but a skeptic can have passion too, and not be just a cynic for hating the scumbags.
If it’s all done by listening in to people in the lobby and getting people to write stuff down before hand, why not get 10 actor couples of various ages and demographics to turn up to a show, or a series of different psychics shows, “in character” and see if any of them get a false reading based on the false info… Easier to arrange if you have the backing of a major TV network and an army of loyal fans willing to go undercover, of course.
I would like to believe there are true mediums and psychics out there, but really do not think any of the stage hacks would walk the walk in a test environment.
Derren, can I say the following words from your blog really struck a chord with me; “In fact I sometimes wonder if the main reason why people would rather believe a psychic is genuine might be because the implications of it being a lie – of that person, for reasons of ego and renumeration, happily getting up on stage and trampling over the lives of people who know no better – is so ugly that it’s preferable to give them the benefit of the doubt”.
I grew up with a narcissistic bully as a father. I’m now fine and loving life but I noticed this “benefit of the doubt” being given to my father by others growing up. I still notice it if I ever talk about his abuse now. I take heart from the fact most people can’t imagine such ugliness but I’m amazed at our capacity to ignore unpaletable truths.
Thanks for linking to the phone call, very interesting!
I’m collating information on “Psychic” Sally, and her internet-tough-guy lawyer, Graham Atkins. Please, if you have something to share, let me know.
http://tinyurl.com/MorganLibel
Also… I wonder why, when evidence is there to support an idea or truth…many of us have the potential to still ignore this. If you ever played ‘join the dots’ as a kid to see what picture emerges at the end, it seems strange not to ‘join the dots’ in a social sense and in terms of scientific scrutiny of behaviour as adults when the stakes are higher. Stranger still, to have all the dots (evidence) in place and yet ignore or change the picture that emerges at the end to suit one’s sensibilities or bias.
The truth will out in this case but I suspect an honest practitioner in any field would be itching to prove their real capabilities and wouldn’t be hiding from those that wish to see this magnificent talent in action. Fantastic and engaging blog.
I work in a theatre that sally’s show has been to twice in the last year. The first time around she made claims about a murder that meant the police were asking for footage of what she said. I don’t know the outcome of this claim but I am presuming since I didn’t get interviewed by the police it was unfounded. I personally found what she said was shocking and unacceptable as did several of my colleagues. I am also aware that she has separate communication systems between her staff and the in house techs, and also 90% certain she has an earpiece as when we had a problem at the theatre she was informed about it from someone backstage while she was on stage. I wouldn’t say that this proves anything however I know that I would not buy tickets to her show other than for “entertainment purposes”
The difficulty with the Halloween challenge is that reading the details of the actual test, it didn’t really seem like the fair test on Sally’s part. I don’t think she has ever claimed to be a dead-body-identification-expert. Surely there must be a better test, an impartial one that would actually look at what someone like her would claim to be able to do – more like in her shows. For example – would she be able to do the same thing in a controlled environment, with no technicians, no ear-pieces or radios, no other way that she could possibly obtain the information.
Thank you Derren….the P&T Bu**sh*t was very interesting…..!