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Posted by Derren Brown News November 4, 2011 at 7:00 pm

Just a little reminder that the third episode in ‘The Experiments’ series airs tonight at 9pm on Channel 4.

Leave your thoughts on the show in the comments section below, or click here to watch a sneak preview 🙂

COMMENTS
November 4, 2011 at 7:05 pm
GD says:

I can’t wait… so excited i think a little bit of wee just came out


November 4, 2011 at 7:05 pm

Don’t you just hate it when someone makes a geeky comment about the accuracy of something? Well too bad, here goes! 🙂 (As originally tweeted):

The blood spray doesn’t match blunt force trauma. It’s also too high if they were laying down when struck, or low if stood up.

Thank-you and goodnight.


November 4, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Astonj says:

Rest assured, I will be very keenly watching! As I do every episode!


November 4, 2011 at 7:17 pm

Literally gonna sit in my pants, watch this and have a quality time.


November 4, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Iwan says:

What if the blunt force of the mallet forced out some head-juice out of a previous head wound, possibly caused by trepanning to ‘let the demons out’?


November 4, 2011 at 7:19 pm

For the first time I get to see you in High Definition! I hope to see every hair in your little beard.
I’ve been looking forward to this all week! 😀 Let the fun begin!

Honor x


November 4, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Ben Kennish says:

@Mike Rawlings – lol, there’s always one!


November 4, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Louise says:

That’s an epic photo of Derren. Love it. Really looking forward to this!


November 4, 2011 at 8:42 pm
John S says:

BETTER BE GOOD OR IM GONA HURT YA


November 4, 2011 at 8:52 pm
C says:

Cannot wait! Loved “The Gameshow” experiment; I was watching, thinking it was live as I missed the first twenty minutes so was completely horrified at the show’s twist! Looking forward to tonight’s show, love you Derren, you’re brilliant! 😀


November 4, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Sarah Lou says:

^_^ I am loving it so far! Well done, Can’t wait to see the rest!-
Lol on the look on Jody’s face when Tim came in! ^_^


November 4, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Sharon says:

I feel so sorry for this guy, messing with his head just a bit too much. He might worry that when Derren’s not around anyone could do it. I love Derren but I’m worried for this nice guy!


November 4, 2011 at 9:50 pm
lee says:

This is not entertainment. Is it ethical to put someone through this? How would you feel thinking you had murdered someone? What are the long term consequences? Do we know?
I know this happens and we proabably need research on it, but not for the benefit of mass entertainment.


November 4, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Pete says:

Great show ! which country house is used in the show ?


November 4, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Stuart says:

Dub-master Brown uses GarageBand shocker!
Really enjoying this one – a real trip!


November 4, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Andy says:

So what’s this so far a just feel sorry for the guy, what’s gonna happen afterwards to sort him out? It’s cruel? Interesting but cruel


November 4, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Shocked says:

This isn’t ethical at all. I’m in tears. Why not conduct such experiments on people who aren’t nice. I hope you checked to see this person didn’t suffer from a condition like OCD before you conducted this experiment. The first time I’m quite disgusted to see one of your shows.


November 4, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Virginia says:

I’m wondering how this programme can possibly be considered ethical. I find it grotesque to see so many people working to undermine the psyche and moral being of a person who is completely out of the loop, no matter how it may be resolved in the end. Hidden camera things are often a tired joke anyway- this is perverse. No real professional would ever do this to someone.


November 4, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Shocked says:

I’m so glad you stepped in. That was unbearable. I’m so glad he’s laughing.


November 4, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Tomas says:

WOOW! First episode I watched. Just blew me away!


November 4, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Patrick says:

Amazing really brilliant. Hope that poor bloke has the anchors lifted and the feelings of that guilt removed.


November 4, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Gareth says:

Much better episode this evening! I didn’t like last week’s one much, but this one was good!


November 4, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Upset says:

I think Darren Browne is a disgrace. Who does he think he is playing with people’s minds like this. That poor man on telly tonight. The agony he is going through thinking he has killed someone. I strongly strongly disagree with this so called TV programme. It is not entertainment to watch someone suffer. I really really think Darren Browne should not be allowed to experiment with the human mind for television or for any reason. I will never watch Darren Browne again. Never


November 4, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Sophie says:

Was actually amazing. Best episode everrrrr! x


November 4, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Fiona says:

Really concerned about the ethics of tonights show. I think you should hold shows of this nature to similar standards of all experiments. This did not do that as the consequences of this were potentially serious. You have serious and important questions to answer Derren.


November 4, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Ann says:

this was disturbing…i cant help thinking that this could have reprocussions later on for this poor guy…i really hope he lives his life without any after thoughts ….past entertainment me yhinks….


November 4, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Charlotte says:

Amazing!!!


November 4, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Beki says:

I think it went a bit too far, messed with his head a little too much, this guy is going to be so paranoid from now on. Also, I’m a little sceptical as 1. he slept in his dressing gown? a very small detail, but someone who was drunk would just fall into bed, not get into a dressing gown to go to sleep, and two, if he had thought he had done it, then surely he would be covered in blood? I wouldn’t think I had murdered someone without any type of evidence.


November 4, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Charlotte says:

@Upset:

Firstly, it’s Brown, not Browne.
Secondly, did you not see that Jody was really happy to have taken part?! People apply to take part in Derren’s shows, there’s nothing cruel about it!!


November 4, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Jess says:

It was so good felt sorry for the guy and felt bad for him habing to feel guilty
I LOVE DERREN BROWN T.V SHOWS THEY MAKE MY DAY! cant wait till next weeks upset its the last one of the experiments
“Upset”-if you didnt enjoy it dont watch it I found it very intresting and want to do psychology at uni!!
xxxxxxxxxxxxx


November 4, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Mojtaba says:

I’ve seen This episode. awesome just been speechless. …!!!


November 4, 2011 at 10:19 pm
MC says:

People need to realise that people willingly volunteer for these programmes. The volunteers are either great fans of Derren, in which case they know anything can happen, or if they just apply for it without knowing anything about him then what the hell are they doing? Derren chooses people who want to be there. There is no other way to do it. It’s not worth getting upset about programmes like this – there are far worse things on television – X Factor and any other reality programme where people are put through terrible moments just for our entertainment. They are far worse, they’re on weekly and affect many people. Don’t think Derren will miss Mr Upset.


November 4, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Shaun Banks says:

Excellent show. I know a few senior police officers and they have spent a good amount of interview time with the innocent guilty trying to help them understand that guilt is not always enough to convict. It is far more common that anyone would imagine.


November 4, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Aurora says:

I’m sure ‘Darren Browne’ will be horrified that Upset will never watch him again. Will he/she be watching Derren Brown again though?


November 4, 2011 at 10:24 pm
sandy says:

Derren, that was magnificent – one of the best. Oooohhh what about the long term effects on the guy, he’s just found out that he didn’t murder someone when he thought he might have done – I for one would be absolutely delighted and honoured to be part of the show. Remember he volunteered for it knowing fine well that derren does this sort of stuff so enough of the non-ethical nonsense. If it’s too much for you i suggest you watch The Human Centipede for a bit of a giggle.


November 4, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Jessika says:

I must say that I agree (ever so slightly,) with some of the above comments talking about how it was cruel to really mess with Jody like that, but I also know that Derren absolutely wouldn’t have done it if he didn’t think Jody was able to cope. He’s always been very careful and ethical in the past. Also, I think that the overall point of the show was to highlight the fact that society, church, dominating parents etc. are always controlling us like that, making us feel guilty for no reason and manipulating our behaviour, and we were MEANT to feel just a teeny bit disgusted. It wasn’t all for pure entertainment value (as some people keep saying…..Although the mock funeral procession WAS, I think. Just a little bit much there 😉 )

Best episode so far. Really thought provoking.


November 4, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Sandy says:

Oh dear Beki appears to have watched the show but has not understood a single thing about it! magnificent


November 4, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Julia says: says:

This is a dreadful programme; television at it’s worst. How can this guy Jody trust anyone again especially his girlfriend. Nothing good comes out of hurting people like this.


November 4, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Amanda R. says:

Amazing! Derren, you’re a fabulous evil genius. I thought the Trick or Treat episode with the girl electrocuting the kitten was cruel, now that seems tame..! Jody took it so well, what a nice guy. Fascinating show – I was glued to the screen, while munching a whole packet of Trebor mints.. if my teeth fall out after this series, I’m holding you responsible 🙂


November 4, 2011 at 10:31 pm
swit says:

Loved the use of CLUEDO character names. Jody seemed to take it well when he found out it was a setup. Really felt for him when he thought he’d done it, hope he has no lasting effects. Last weeks Gameshow was a copy of a well known psychological experiment. Looking forward to next week.


November 4, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Ann says:

this guy did not willingly take part in this episode….he applied for something else then was turned down…he was SET UP for the murder episode


November 4, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Debbie says:

Always amazing! It’s not just about entertaining us, the public, it’s fascinating to see the capabilities of human beings and the human mind. Things other species aren’t even capable of. Just wish Derren could teach me to have an iodetic memory!


November 4, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Rachel C says:

Derren, I think you are so amazing! I’d love to meet you, although you would probably make me forget it.
To everyone who is complaining it is unethical etc, no one forces these people to apply for Derren’s Shows. Yes they are very riske and at times a little uncomfortable to watch but that is just how Derren Brown is.
The people who apply for his shows should know exactly what he is like and what they may potentially be put through so if they didn’t want to do it, they wouldn’t apply. And further to this, there are literally thousands of people who apply for the show and they pick just one person after extensive psychological testing. Not just to ensure they have picked someone who they can manipulate but to ensure the person they pick will be psychologically strong enough to cope with it.


November 4, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Fiona says:

I’m with Ann.
Additionally 2 more points:
1. If you can coerce someone into admitting a murder they didn’t commit you can convince someone that they’ve been glad to participate in a TV show
2. It doesn’t matter what the eventual outcome is, it matters that there was a genuine potential to cause harm.


November 4, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Tim says:

Derren, if you were an artist you would win the Turner, because your work is more shocking than any dead animal. If you were a psychologist you would be a Cambridge professor for your work on persuasion.

But what you are doing is much more important – shining a laser on our justice system, showing how easy it is to persuade people to commit crimes they don’t remember, confess to crimes they didn’t commit, become brilliant marksmen or cruel bullies – perhaps even set fire to themselves on aeroplanes…? Your exposure of how incredibly suggestible we are, and your hints at miscarriages of justice are incredibly important. I hope the message sinks in. Thanks.


November 4, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Bazza says:

Great show, I love the bit where you made the lady at the dog track pay out on a losing betting slip. Keep up the good work, and to those that were disgusted, why watch? Nobody really cares about you other than laughing at your petty comments, hahaha.


November 4, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Ross says:

Cruel? this is an experiment on the human race, and thats why people find this disturbing and cruel because it plays on our emotions and feelings and its a normal average joe that is being experimented on. Mr Brown clearly is a very talented man and an expert practitioner in his field and very entertaining. As such the test subject would not be left with any long term harm or effects if any at all. Those of you who say this is disturbing and cruel say this purely because Mr Brown is a unique person, there is nobody in the media or TV that does what he does and this is why it shocks you, its never been seen before. He is so unique that after all this time there has not been anybody else copying what he does. Mr Brown i take my hat off to you. FANTASTIC!!!!


November 4, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Sandy says:

There is potential to cause harm when crossing the road. I am never crossing the road again.


November 4, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Trish says:

I have always enjoyed Derren Browns shows. However, this series is making me feel very uncomfortable. We’re watching it on Channel 4+1. My son has left the room a while ago as he couldn’t bare to watch any more. Of course our reactions may be the whole point of this series of Experiments.


November 4, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Amanda says:

I get sick of reading peoples comments about how can Derren fo these things to individuals. Ok here it is plain and simple. Apply to be a part of Derrens shows = expect the unexpected.
Nobody is forced to be a part of his shows they ain’t exactly being hypnotised to apply. Every person who submits the application must realise what they are potentially getting them into lol.
If I ever had the chance to be a part of one of Derrens shows then I would certainly be ready for anything, well maybe not consciously but you get my drift 🙂 Derren keep doing what your doing, because everything you do is awesome 😀


November 4, 2011 at 10:59 pm
D says:

An emotional yet amazing experiment. It’s fascinating to watch how it all comes together. Who else on tv can get place you on an 60 minute emotional rollercoaster like that ? As for ‘upset’ well, don’t like it don’t watch it. , keep the good work up Derren.


November 4, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Colette Mason says:

Gratz on another thought provoking show.

I think the most important lesson to learn is how people can be open to manipulation using some straight forward strategies – and it is very educational to show behind the curtain and see how these methods could be used for bad rather than good and fixing Little Johnny’s fear of flying.

Each week you mention one sentence that implies this is being used by the criminal underworld – I can’t help but think you are trying to tell us something and to be vigilant!


November 4, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Rich says:

It’s the un-ethical stuff that sets Derren Brown apart from the rest but there’s no way he’d allow any of his shows to permanently damage anyone. As for the show itself, not one of his best. All the subtle ‘guilt’ set up tricks seemed a bit pointless once they’d carried him outside. Any genuinely nice and honest person waking up outside with no memory after a nights drinking would panic and question themselves on finding a murder has been committed without the need of a bell chime or finding a necklace in your room etc


November 4, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Lauren says:

If you read Derren Brown’s book, Tricks of the Mind, you will see that he is incredibly thorough about vetting people and never uses any subjects with a history of mental illness.

And as people have said, people sign up for this. I’m a Yank, but I was under the impression that Derren is hugely famous in the UK and people know what they’re in for. I would never sign up, and that’s my personal decision.

Finally, I don’t know what people mean by “a real professional would never do this”–a real professional what? He’s not a doctor or a scientist and has never claimed to be one; he’s an entertainer.


November 4, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Dylan says:

I’m glad he was okay with it.

Also.

TIM MINCHIN.
He was also the perfect kind of person to be on there, because although he could possibly be nothing like this in real life, how he comes across is an insanely nice person who would take offensiveness to heart. Frankly, he’d be the last person in the world I’d want to offend.


November 4, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Lauren says:

One more thing–I know a little something about how corporations work, and if you don’t think Channel Four or their parent company, if there is one (sorry, I’m not from your country so I’m unfamiliar) has experts on hand to make sure everything is safe and to prevent lawsuits, you’re crazy.

Obviously he didn’t sign up for this specific task, or it wouldn’t work. But he signed up to participate in a setup, because that’s what Derren Brown does.


November 4, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Doug says:

Where was Mrs. Peacock? Her omission was an absolute disgrace. I will never watch your show again. Never!!

But seriously, I thought it was a very good show. Entertaining and thought provoking, as always. I wouldn’t be worried about Jody suffering any psychological after-effects, either. He would have been assessed by a psychologist before taking part to make sure he could handle the stress, and he only did what any rational person would do in that situation. Making someone confess to a murder they didn’t commit sounds crazy, but if that someone has been subjected to a barrage of false information & everyone around him is encouraging him to think a certain way, the idea of his confessing doesn’t seem all that crazy at all. It just shows that Jody has a strong moral compass.


November 4, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Rich says:

A great show as usual, although im slightly dubious about the ending… if they didnt know Jody was coming to the police station how is it that they had the station set up, with the car outside, the police actors inside with the photos of the murder, the cameras rolling inside the interview room and the crew waiting outside and all with champaign?


November 4, 2011 at 11:21 pm
JayKay says:

You said it @Jessika. These shows are glimpses into things that aren’t just entertainment-based. There are many levels within this work. Elements of each episode are flawed and at times heavy-handed, but mostly the episodes are layered and subtler than they seem. Though I love Derren’s fluffier work, I also love that he has the courage to investigate the darker psyche. Aftercare is king though.


November 4, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Jake says:

Look, when you sign up for a Derren Brown show your signing a deal with the devil himself.

Someone who is actually a fan (much like Jody) would know this, and of course not take the decision lightly, and take into account different possibilities. He has also been checked before the show to see is he is mentally robust enough to cope with this, and surely get counselling afterwards.. So I don’t really see the problem..

Bring on the Scottish accents, Cluedo charachters and murder!


November 4, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Tom L says:

Really enjoyed this episode, and all the experiments so far, would just like to point out that A) If Jody hadn’t wanted it televised then it wouldnt have been, B) “Upset” clearly hasnt watched a lot of Derren as he cant even spell his name right and C) the idea of the shows are to show how far the mind can be moulded and tricked, all the participants have signed up for it, know what theyre going in for, and are also psychologically examined before, after and sometimes during, depending on the experiment.


November 4, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Adam says:

wow! tonight’s show was amazing, true genius! at time I felt so bad for the guy and felt maybe pushed the ethical boundary but was amazed that he just could believe in his own fabrication of events! thanks and don’t mind rape me.


November 4, 2011 at 11:47 pm
JayKay says:

@Tim And well said, Tim. Spot on I think.


November 4, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Mark says:

Sorry usually a big fan but found the whole show negative and pretty poor…kept waiting for the ‘twist’ but it never came just watching an hour of someone going through hell being convinced they’d killed someone whilst drunk. Awful


November 5, 2011 at 12:01 am
Jdawg says:

Hmmm, very very very interesting. I personally think the fact that he was drunk off his head and woke up in a field had a big thing to do with it. I personally would think “crap what did i do last night?!” I dont think the conditioning would have worked that much.
whatever, amazing show. feel very bad for that guy.


November 5, 2011 at 12:06 am
Disgusted says:

Darren Browne is discgusting and is unethical and dangerous! Darren Brawn should stop and think about the children! I think Derran Blue should be ashamed of him and he is a bad man!!! Shame on you Deacon Blue for making man cry. Silly thing and dangerous hypnotist!


November 5, 2011 at 12:21 am

Seems varying differences of opinion on here over whether this show was cruel to Jody in the name of entertainment or was a brilliantly executed experiment in how we can be manipulated in thinking we’ve done something we haven’t.

I did find it very cleverly done. In fact as I was watching, I even found myself feeling guilty too. Maybe because I was watching through the hidden cameras eyes, perhaps? As it went on, I did feel it was getting a little macabre and I felt deeply uneasy seeing poor Jody actually shed tears just after he’d admitted to a murder he didn’t know if he’d committed or not.
So, it says something about Jody’s courage and Derren’s expertise that the pay-off at the end was worth the wait and made the whole show very interesting & worthwhile.

Thank you,

LC x


November 5, 2011 at 12:24 am
Intrigued says:

I loved tonight’s show and the use of Cluedo character names within it. I’ve been reading through the comments and was wondering how Jody must have felt while this was all going on, because though he knew later it was Derren’s show, at the time he didn’t. He didn’t know he was participating in anything until the reveal. What a horrible feeling to think you have killed someone. I know I wouldn’t have been so forgiving. I think I just might have killed someone!!! 🙂

Then again reading back my comment to myself I feel a tiny bit guilty as I sat and watched this poor man suffer, and maybe that it is the point. I was the one suffering the ‘guilt trip’!!


November 5, 2011 at 12:25 am
dI says:

left feeling empty about the difference between truth and reality, when someone so nice is manipulated to believe something opposed to their personality. Can’t see how things can ever be the same for him. I know he signed up for the show, hope good will outright.


November 5, 2011 at 12:34 am

Can I also just quickly say a big thank you & well done to Derren and everyone else involved. Am guessing a lot of work goes into these productions and it’s not gone unnoticed. x

LC x


November 5, 2011 at 12:43 am
Sep says:

I’ve loved all of the experiments so far (also was just giggling at the Cluedo reference in the beginning :D)! Jody seemed so delighted in the end so I think he’ll be able to take this as a positive. People should take his word for it and stop with this patronising attitude towards him (and lecturing Derren about ethics when he himself is such a nice guy). Still, it was very interesting that one could actually get someone to admit a murder they didn’t commit. Just makes me wonder how often this happens in the real world with more guilt-inducing and longer interrogations!


November 5, 2011 at 12:47 am
Gary says:

You have people questioning the ethics of this experiment. The vary best, most accurate experiments, are usually unethical, however very necessary. Jodi wanted to take part in one of Derren Brown’s shows. He got to meet his idol along the way, and have a funny story to tell his friends about him.

Yes, he was guilt tripped into thinking that he had committed a murder, but when you consider the electric shock psychology experiment in which there were people that had to turn up the shock voltage and shock them every time they got a wrong answer, this really isn’t that bad. Thumbs up Derren! Don’t pay attention to the winers, they merely do not understand the necessity of such experiments.


November 5, 2011 at 1:10 am
Rob says:

Absolutely gripping and fascinating piece this week! A great concept, and excellently carried out too! On some of Derren’s shows, I wonder if the subjects are kindof subconsciously playing along, and if they’ve noticed they are actually on a Derren show, but Jody clearly had no-idea about that. Great stuff !!!


November 5, 2011 at 1:33 am

I have done a second video message to you Derren Please let me know you have got it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvOBXiAkipE&list=PL96DDD07BB401B49B&feature=plpp_play_all

Msg from Abeo: I’ve sent you an email 🙂


November 5, 2011 at 1:54 am
Charl says:

Jody was not SET UP for the murder episode. I have recieved an app form for his shows and it doesn’t state whatsoever the content of the show you’re are applying for but whoever applies will be willing to participate in whatever it entails even if they aren’t aware. I’m sure this is checked over as they go through each applicant.
If Jody or any other of the heros were stolen from their beds at night and didn’t know who Derren Brown or even what Channel 4 was then maybe that’d be a touch dodgy.

I find Derrens TV and Live shows some of the most interesting, thought provoking and most importantly amusing forms of entertainment out there. If you don’t like it then don’t watch, leave it to his fans and people who understand his acts to participate in and enjoy his work.


November 5, 2011 at 1:59 am
Praveen says:

Woww. Best in the series. Derren, you are one of a kind. Incredible.. absolutely fantastic!!!


November 5, 2011 at 2:52 am
Ethos says:

I, actually, felt that the show failed to address how false confessions usually are arrived at (i.e. more through interrogation grind, and so on, rather than quasihipnotic devices), although, I suppose it is debatable whether, in this case, there’s an interchangeability between the two, and that all the trickery played upon the victim counts as such mental exhaustion.

But regardless of that question, I do feel that this episode crossed an ethical line and that it might have resulted in lasting psychological damage to the victim (though he, himself, may deny it).

I will continue to watch this and other Derren Brown shows, and remain a fan of his extraordinary craft and skill set. But that doesn’t change this episode constituting an ethical breach for him, by him.


November 5, 2011 at 3:36 am
Code says:

Found this one quite upsetting, I really felt for Jody. Would really like to know that he was ok afterwards.

I’m curious about how/if you attempt to assess whether applicants for the show might have sociopathic/narcissistic/etc disorders as apparently even psychiatrists can’t always diagnose them and with both this and the first episode they would make a difference to the results.


November 5, 2011 at 4:07 am

I’m a long time fan of yours Derren so it genuinely pains me to suggest that this “Experiments” series, while fascinating, is bordering on cruel and unethical.

I walked away from the game show rather than watch the victim be subjected to more abuse. I honestly can’t tell if I’m more uncomfortable watching the additional cruelties befalling the victim or watching the audience being subtly encouraged to vote to put the screws to him. In much the same vein I felt terrible watching Jody be so cruelly manipulated.

Some may contend that we’re only troubled by the image we see in the mirror you’re holding up. Alas, I think humanity’s ability to execute cruelty on one another is sadly very well documented already and hardly qualifies as entertainment. Please, you’re better than this


November 5, 2011 at 6:33 am
spiderabc1 says:

Fantastic show : ) DB looked a little concerned for Jody at one point which was nice though obviously DB would have known exactly how things could go and the possible reactions. I hope Jody feels proud for behaving in such a manner and sure DB and the team will have made his head better straight afterwards. The Tim c**t =ace haha.


November 5, 2011 at 6:36 am
spiderabc1 says:

Any chance DB can write a book on cards for beginners? One that shows you how to shuffle. (#52 fan)


November 5, 2011 at 8:42 am
Stuart says:

Well done – great episode.
This highlighted a very important aspect of our psyche and how it can be easily manipulated. As mentioned by DB, organised religion has been built on the back of this and thrived for far too long…
The Cluedo cast and setting were a very nice touch and the scenes where Jody was made to doubt his memory were wickedly funny!
At the end, the literal tearing aside of the veil and what we saw I the deprogramming more than satisfy me that Jody will enjoy this as much as the rest of us.


November 5, 2011 at 8:48 am
Bumble says:

It’s funny because I hated the first two episodes, particulary throwing ‘acid’ in someones face but I just felt that the Jody one was managed really carefully and very good, in comparison. It’s still not up to a proper psychological experiment but it’s interesting viewing. Nothing has beaten the heist or zombie yet!


November 5, 2011 at 9:47 am
Judith says:

Uncomfortable in parts, but the end was so great and made me cry. I seriously need to man up.. I cried at The Assassin too. Jody was such a lovely person I felt sorry for him when he was getting upset. X Judith X


November 5, 2011 at 9:52 am
jane a says:

i have to admit im in two minds about the show from yesterday, disgust and guilt from the way such a nice ordinary guy was convinced, and the way he was so torn up about something he hadnt dont done. one the other hand it was amazing!! how convincingly he was tricked and the way he was tricked, i was on tenderhooks for the entire show! fantastic.

i was reminded about a case from the 1950’s where a man was convicted and killed via corporal puishment due to police coertion and mental instabilty and admited to killing his wife and child…

fantastic but unerving.


November 5, 2011 at 9:54 am
skeptical heretic says:

don’t know maybe I’m am the ultimate skeptic.#Seems like there was logical disconnects to me. why did they build a fake police station if he was meant to give the confession in the show in the house. And then he conveniently goes to said police station and everyone’s there and there is also a bar for drinks lol yeah right


November 5, 2011 at 10:26 am
Mark says:

Why did we not see him query the bell sound? Or if he did, what did they tell him it was for?


November 5, 2011 at 10:39 am
alan says:

I suspect claims of a village containing a Post Office and a Police Station would have alerted some of us to a somewhat questionable actuality. Not to say, a certain proximity to a possible parallel reality. An acquaintance was enumerating to me recently, how he and a friend had comprehensively failed in their attempts to hoodwink the lie-detector app supplied free with his new mobile telephone. It would seem that this handheld technology has arrived not a moment too soon. Oh! and apropos the party political system. RIP.


November 5, 2011 at 11:07 am

This series of programmes appears to be a ‘limited hangout’ for the targeted individual system. Targeted individuals (please google it) are a section of society who are victimized by the security forces, who use them for experiments involving microwave weapons and exotic poisons, and to develop and test new operational strategies and techniques, and to train new intelligence personnel.

The previous programme in this series appeared to involve techniques known to TIs as ‘gaslighting’ (secret burglaries) and ‘gang stalking’ (the public victimization activities).

This programme deals with the inculcation of guilty mental states in a targeted individual, to create doubt in his mind and susceptibility to brainwashing. This experience is routine for targeted individuals.


November 5, 2011 at 11:14 am
Charlotte says:

What’s so great about shows like this is that they don’t NEED to go through ethical committees which means they can literally do anything – if I went to uni and asked to do something like this it would be shot down straight away – this is the ONLY way we can see human behaviour at its worst and best nowadays. Yes its unethical but people are screened in about 7 different ways to see if they’re suggestible, OCD (not that that matters), and if they can cope with the kind of trauma they’re about to be put through – why do you think they interview them, follow them and speak to their families before they actually accept anyone? And doing it to ‘people who aren’t nice?’ like that’s any more ethical than this? Like many people have said people apply themselves to the show – no one forces them.


November 5, 2011 at 11:15 am
Jon de Vantier says:

Brilliant show last night, Jody was so taken in on the whole situation right from the onset of the show. You could see the relief on his face when he was told and shown that it was al made up. Looking forward to the next program on Friday.


November 5, 2011 at 11:19 am
Dan says:

If last week was my least favourite of Derren et al’s work, I think this was one was of their best. Yes, some ethical concerns but I felt it was more like ‘an experiment’ than last week. Really fascinating and thoroughly entertaining.

I did feel for Jody though – even for those few hours, it must have been torture. I imagine he would have had all the support he needed though.


November 5, 2011 at 11:25 am
Saveen says:

I just came to know about you yesterday night while I was just randomly checking YouTube for some stuff on human mind and how to boost your mind power, & I came through your videos on YouTube, and believe me Derren you have blown me completely away with your sincerity, charm-fullness, and enigmatic personality, and believe me since yesterday I have watched more than a dozen of your videos. You opened my eyes towards religion as well, the faith healers video wow man, I salute you and I AM A FAN FOR LIFE OF YOU and I wish one day I meet you in person, & see you & feel you and watch you perform. I am lamenting why I was so unaware of you earlier, may be because of our geographical thing, but anyhow I am gonna stick to you for life, please come to India once, with tons of love & respect.


November 5, 2011 at 11:28 am
A M Brodie says:

Definitely uncomfortable viewing but that was certainly the point. An excellently conceived and presented exploration of how comparatively simple it can be to create feelings of guilt strong enough to prompt a confession to something as serious as a murder. As has been said before, imagine how much stronger the influence of family, religion or peer pressure must be. Thank you for a hugely thought provoking show – looking forward to more!
PS I’m intriugued by @Upset’s idea that ‘it is not entertainment to watch someone suffer’ – I trust he/she is similarly critical of all reality & talent shows which are based entirely upon the overwhelming evidence that it is…


November 5, 2011 at 11:55 am
Jaydee says:

Derren…the work you are doing is pure brilliance, on a level above all who have come before you. You are doing a great job, keep it up. This is such important and valuable work in the grander scheme of things and you are a pioneer in raising awareness of the techniques used for such dramatic effect. The power of the mind is far too often misunderstood and underestimated in modern culture, it can be both beautiful and unbearable. No matter how hard you try you can never escape your own mind, there is no retreat, no reprieve and your work proves to the general public just how vulnerable and suggestible the mind is to those with the power to exploit it. Thank you for your dedication and enthusiasm in this awe-inspiring subject. n/


November 5, 2011 at 12:06 pm
barb says:

Great show! I swear though — what is with all the flippin’ Psychological Protection Police? In the first couple minutes of the show Derren says that Jody had seen his shows and knew what he might be getting into (when he originally auditioned and was led to think he didn’t make it) and that he was screened to make sure that he could take it psychologically. The point , as has been said again and again, was to show how even the nicest person can be made to believe he’s guilty of something he didn’t do. By virtue of the fact that Jody auditioned to take part in a Derren Brown show, knowing full well how those can go, he required no convincing to make him glad he had participated. He was genuinely happy to learn he was on one of Derren’s shows — that’s why he had auditioned! He’s fine!


November 5, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Darcy says:

Wow such mixed comments. Deren brown is amazing but if he were a psychologist he would be facing some difficult ethics comities.
This is the first show of his that I have ever felt uncomfortable watching. Ethically I feel this was wrong even though the participant was happy at the end and the debrief was spectacular. Milgram and zimbardo both proformed experiments that would fit today’s tv but a psychologist would not get them past a contempory ethics comity.
How acceptable it is to cause someone distress in the name of research is heavily scrutinised but the use of psychology for entertainment does not seem to be which concerns me.
Another thing that disturbed me about the series is that I feel that the 2nd episode almost primed me for such shocking treatment of an individual but then maybe I’m giving too much credit to derren and the producers :/


November 5, 2011 at 12:22 pm
J.M. Louis says:

So many people here are criticising the view that last night’s show was unethical, but I personally think that despite the fact that Jody applied to be on Derren’s show, this is still no excuse to emotionally destroy him on national television, conducting a psychological experiment on him to make a ‘good show’ and make people think a bit about how we can be manipulated. In my opinion, the experiments of the past few weeks have gone much too far.

Also, we all know reality shows do the same thing. perhaps even on a bigger scale. However, people apply to take part in them too, so does that mean that many posters on here believe the degradation of contestants on these shows is fine too?


November 5, 2011 at 12:24 pm
DBLover says:

I thought it was a fantastic show. I also think that we, the audience, were the intended guilt trip target, along with Jody. It seems like the mind-twisting thing Derren would do, and made a very good point about how it is possible to make someone admit to a crime they didn’t even do!
Did anyone else notice how when Jody and the victim were about to play croquet the other guy said ‘pick up your weapons’, referring to the bats, and that the guy was killed with a croquet bat? Very cleverly slipped in there 🙂
Great show, as always 🙂


November 5, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Rory says:

Excellent. I feel sorry for this guy too but at the end he consider this experience as a good one and was happy to be part of the show. Besides, people who want to be on Derren Brown shows should expect something like this. But he felt guilty, because he was convinced that he did it and he was genuine guy. I think it works only with people who are just good in live, who do the right thing. And it was fantastic to see that.

What I didn’t like is to show religion as a thing that creat guilt. Guilt is not always wrong.


November 5, 2011 at 2:13 pm
leah says:

i really think that anyone calling this episode or indeed any episode of the ‘experiments’ series unethical must be blissfully unaware of the reality of psychological experiments!


November 5, 2011 at 2:43 pm
J says:

Does anyone else think it’s us who are being tricked? It all goes a little too smoothly.


November 5, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Moomin says:

I think the comments about inconsistencies in the show – the police station with everyone waiting, aren’t inconsistencies. Derren is tricking the hero AND he’s tricking us the TV audience. That last part where they all start to panic because Jodie wanders away, was set up to make a better story for the audience. Derren admits as much at the beginning of every show. It’s a part of the misdirection. The ending had been carefully crafted, I’m sure they had all the actors on standby to arrive exactly where they needed to be. It’s TV. Read DB’s earlier post about claims he does or doesn’t make.


November 5, 2011 at 3:34 pm
stephanie says:

I have watched derrens show for years now and i am never dissapointed. Last nights show was very clever, I felt for jodie at the end but i love what derren has done because now i imagine that jody will be feeling alot lighter in life . It is so interesting what we can be pushed to do . Just want to say well done derren your amazing.


November 5, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Moomin says:

I also think that Jodie had been subtly, unconsciously primed, to let part of him know that he was involved in an elaborate set-up. I don’t think we see these elements, except for maybe a few. For example he’s interviewed thoroughly by DB, told he’s rejected, then out of the blue gets invited to speak in a country house – odd. Everyone’s surname is a colour (wierd). Tim Minchin appears. He starts seeing strange things. The plot of an Agatha Christie starts to play out etc etc etc. At all of these stages some tiny part of him must have been unconsciously thinking “hmm… I wonder if this has anything to do with DB”.
That’s not a criticism by the way – I just think it changes how you view the ethics of the situation.
Plus DB picked someone who pulled at our heartstrings.


November 5, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Dirty Kuffar says:

Great Show Derren – I thought it was perfectly ethical, you put the bloke straight afterwards, unlike religions/cults and abusive partners, so it was therefore super-ethical in that the show will hopefully get people thinking about the subject and not falling for the guilt trip or original sin type scams.


November 5, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Elise says:

Woah! That was sooooo mean! :O Good though. Surprised he took it so well…. :/ Can’t wait for the next one….the final one 🙁 sob!


November 5, 2011 at 5:03 pm
wayne says:

DO you think this only happens in a tv show?

This is happening day in day out all over the world.

There are people posting on this site that really should pull their heads out of the sand. Wake up and recognise from what you have seen that it is happening or may happen to you.

Learn the lesson that this show is promoting and I thank Derren for having the balls to show us how suggestible WE are.


November 5, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Molly says:

As the survivor of a cult I find these shows really informative. They help me to understand that what happened to me was not unique but most people, finding themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time can be drawn in and controlled. Each of these experiments has helped me to put another peice of the jigsaw together and I am stronger for it. Thank you Derren.


November 5, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Phil says:

Great show Derren! enjoyed it as much as the ‘Assassin’ episode. This episode reminded me of the film ‘The Truman show’, watching over someone when they believe it to be real but everyone is acting. Really liked the way the subtle changes were made such as the items of clothing and laughed when the meals were being swapped. It goes to show how much we subconsciously take in our environment without realising it.
I agree with the comments above that although it may be seen as unethical, obviously great care is taken when selecting the perfect candidate before carryin out these experiemnts.

Bring on Episode 4!


November 5, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Angela says:

Well done. Uncomfortable to watch but watch it I did. I think Jody will be just fine, what a nice guy! Loved the Tim/c**t part. Great entertainment and very interesting. Roll on next week 🙂


November 5, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Lorraine says:

I was accused of something I didnt do as a kid and ‘confessed’ out of pressure so I know how it feels to an extent. It was interesting and informative, but at the same time I can’t believe you would do something like that to someone for entertainment. You were lucky he didn’t jump out of a window.


November 5, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Ros says:

Hasn’t Derren had enough of identifying and torturing the weak-minded? Let’s see him take on an intellectual equal for a change. It would make for a more entertaining ending: Jodi locks himself in his ensuite bathroom for two hours / Derren’s crew kick the door in / find him unconscious with an empty pack of paracetamol / when the ambulance arrives Jodi jumps up and twats Derren over the head with a stomach-pump screaming “Do you feel guilty now? DO YOU, YOU EVIL LITTLE FRIGGER?”

I did enjoy it, though. I’m not being sarcastic when I say that it’s nice to see a primetime TV show that’s indisputably less ethical than the hardcore S&M porn I’m addicted to.


November 6, 2011 at 4:54 am
meandering sums says:

been crafty enough long enough to avoid getting caught, so i’ve never really developed much a sense of guilt. that whole “because i can” thing, i suppose.

realization brought to by this episode, not a thought i’d ever had prior.


November 6, 2011 at 7:56 am
Darren (not Derren) says:

Vary intarasting show.

Sitting and watching this I couldn’t help thinking of the Game Show episode. Being told that Jody was a nice guy increased the guilt some of us felt watching. I kind of reversal of the previous week’s show where the audience were led to believe that the ‘victim’ was a bad person. Were we duped into believing that Jody was the ‘nicest guy you could meet’? By watching this are we very different from the audience in the Game Show? They were making decisions as to what happens but Channel 4 only make these programmes if they get good viewing figures and can sell some advertising.


November 6, 2011 at 11:21 am

Absolutely fantastic!Great scripting, music…everthyng! Great job Derren!
See you in the theater in Milton Keynes in February!
Luca


November 6, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Thistooshallpass says:

Absolutely loved The Guilt Trip. It brought back some old childhood memories when I was constantly told by priests and nuns that I was born with ‘mortal sin’ on my soul. As a small child the guilt I felt and the confusion as to what exactly I’d done to receive this ‘mortal sin’ was incredibly hard to bear. That guilt stayed with me for years but eventually I broke away from the restraints of Catholicism and discovered that if you want to believe in God/higher power it’s your own personal choice. Glad Jody enjoyed the experience and I would have taken his place in an instance if I had the courage to write in and appear on one of your shows. Great stuff. Looking forward to next weeks programme as hubby and I love a little flutter on the gee gee’s


November 6, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Jessika says:

Just to reassure all the people out there with complaints, if you check Twitter, Jody actually watched The Experiment WITH Derren, and is not on the brink of suicide. Now please give it a rest!


November 7, 2011 at 2:18 am
Chris says:

Like many of you have already mentioned, this is highly unethical in every sense. It’s mental torture and there’s a high risk of trauma for a person that’s being deceived under these circumstances.

With that said, I would like to point out to everybody that is credulous enough, that this could never, and would never be approved to be produced and broadcasted if it was for real. Just imagine all the implications; if Derrens judgement of Jody’s mental stabilty would’ve been wrong, if Jody did something unexpected (like totally panicking and hurting himself in some way), if the memory of his experience later would cause him to have psychological problems etcetera. There are so many possible outcomes in a chain of such unexpected events.

It’s is highly unlikely that this show is for real.


November 7, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Me says:

The Guilt Trip was absolutely fantastic. It will be remembered as one of DB’s best programmes. I found it absolutely captivating.


November 7, 2011 at 11:06 pm
DT83 says:

Great show, really powerful (especially the last few scenes). Some people have commented that perhaps there’s more to these shows in some way… I wonder if part of this experiment is to test our own sense of guilt? I.e. the fact that we’re told a number of times that he’s a nice guy, etc and we feel a little bad for enjoying the show when he’s clearly in distress, etc. Perhaps it’s designed for us to question our own sense of ethics and guilt. Either way, a great show. I personally feel the people who are saying ‘it’s unethical’ are missing the point slightly; it’s an experiment highlight guilt and ethics in the first place – surely this should be seen as a good thing? After all, what’s more effective – a doc on ethics, or a show which actually makes you understand/appreciate them?


November 9, 2011 at 2:05 am
Leo says:

It’s Amazing!!!! To me, you do a public service showing how the human being really is. Exciting.


November 11, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Alex says:

You really rammed him with psychosis there..